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tomegun Thu Jan 27, 2005 05:33pm

That is all I needed to hear. Yes, you can set timers for the future. Like I said, we have one in the bedroom so I will just have to get one that does high-definition and DVR. Thanks.

BktBallRef Thu Jan 27, 2005 05:59pm

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Overall I think they did an excellent job.
You'd better look at the 1,207 replays again. That was a poorly officiated game.

and your credentials to evaluate are....???

Say what you will Junkie but it wasn't the best officiated game I've seen this year. When replays show obvious fouls that any rec league official could have called at full speed, it's a pretty good indication it wasn't a very strong crew.

Having said that, I will say that a crew is only as strong as it's weakest link. THe weak link is the one who drug this crew down.

tomegun Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:38pm

Which one was the weak link? Give us a clue even though I think I know who the weak link was. I didn't see the game though.

WinterWillie Fri Jan 28, 2005 07:51am

Weak link
 
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Which one was the weak link? Give us a clue even though I think I know who the weak link was. I didn't see the game though.
Tivo it, rat-at-tat man. Under two minutes left in game, ball at Duke's end, crunch time, hard foul by Duke at baseline right in front of lead, no whistle, slight delay, C whistles the foul from 35 feet away to save L's butt. No one likes to bash, you make the call!

BktBallRef Fri Jan 28, 2005 09:04am

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Which one was the weak link? Give us a clue even though I think I know who the weak link was. I didn't see the game though.
Don't know his name but he was the one who called the held ball after initially signaling a foul, when in fact it was neither. He had to explain himself a couple of times to Coach Williams.

Not that I give much credence to announcers, especially Billy Packer. But while working the Wake-Ga Tech, he even mentioned ESPN repeatedly running replays of missed calls from the MD-Duke game.

Wake-Ga Tech last night, a much better officiated game.

David B Fri Jan 28, 2005 09:26am

Also MIch and Mich St
 
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Originally posted by tomegun
Which one was the weak link? Give us a clue even though I think I know who the weak link was. I didn't see the game though.
Don't know his name but he was the one who called the held ball after initially signaling a foul, when in fact it was neither. He had to explain himself a couple of times to Coach Williams.

Not that I give much credence to announcers, especially Billy Packer. But while working the Wake-Ga Tech, he even mentioned ESPN repeatedly running replays of missed calls from the MD-Duke game.

Wake-Ga Tech last night, a much better officiated game.

Agreed and also watched Mich and Mich St and was a very good crew.

Hightower was Ref, but the other two were very good and smooth. They started calling it one way and it stayed that way the whole night.

Thanks
David

Jay R Fri Jan 28, 2005 09:34am

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Originally posted by tomegun
Which one was the weak link? Give us a clue even though I think I know who the weak link was. I didn't see the game though.
Don't know his name but he was the one who called the held ball after initially signaling a foul, when in fact it was neither. He had to explain himself a couple of times to Coach Williams.

Not that I give much credence to announcers, especially Billy Packer. But while working the Wake-Ga Tech, he even mentioned ESPN repeatedly running replays of missed calls from the MD-Duke game.

Wake-Ga Tech last night, a much better officiated game.

That was Mike Kitts

tomegun Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:48am

OK so which one was the weak link? Like I said, I think I know but I'm just wondering. I didn't see any of the game so I don't know about any particular plays. Even though one name has been mentioned you don't really have to call any names. Who was the official that missed the call and who was the official that made the call. The crew is basically (please don't read anything into this, it is for description purposes only):

U2 - One black guy that is solid/thick/stocky
U1 - One white guy
R - One black guy

*Interesting note - during conference play the ACC has very few Rs. There were around 4 new guys given the designation this season but before that there were only around 6 making the grand total someplace in the neighborhood of 10! There are some heavy hitters that do ACC games that are not Rs even though you would think so. Something I learned at a meeting that I previously did not know. Two of the guys on the crew for this game are Rs, one being one previously and one being a new R. I'm not sure about the other official.

Nevadaref Sun Jan 30, 2005 01:52am

The MD/Duke guys were:

Officials: Leslie Jones, Michael Kitts, Reggie Cofer

Kitts is the white guy. Reggie has put on some weight. I had never seen Leslie before.

tomegun Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:42am

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The MD/Duke guys were:

Officials: Leslie Jones, Michael Kitts, Reggie Cofer

Kitts is the white guy. Reggie has put on some weight. I had never seen Leslie before.

Nevada, I know who they are. I was just wondering which one of them supposedly messed up without calling out their names. BTW, Les Jones is good and you will see more of him.

BktBallRef Sun Jan 30, 2005 11:50am

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OK so which one was the weak link? Like I said, I think I know but I'm just wondering. I didn't see any of the game so I don't know about any particular plays. Even though one name has been mentioned you don't really have to call any names. Who was the official that missed the call and who was the official that made the call. The crew is basically (please don't read anything into this, it is for description purposes only):

U2 - One black guy that is solid/thick/stocky
U1 - One white guy
R - One black guy

U2


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