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observer Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:10am

I recall reading somewhere if a net hangs up
on the rim because of a made basket, the official
should not blow the whistle to correct the net.
Allow play to continue, anyone remember this!

ChrisSportsFan Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:15am

I believe you leave it be til the next dead ball. At that time ask a player to show everyone his leaping ability and jump up and fix it. If it's lower level, give that freshman the ball and have him fix it. I won't jump up or fix it myself because you just never know and there's no reason to give the fans some fodder.

som44 Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:23am

I agree. Do not stop the game--wait until a dead ball then have it fixed.

rainmaker Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:32am

What ever happened to the FAQ idea?!?

tjones1 Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:21am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
What ever happened to the FAQ idea?!?
I'm lost Juulie... refresher please.

zebraman Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:12pm

Quote:

Originally posted by observer
I recall reading somewhere if a net hangs up
on the rim because of a made basket, the official
should not blow the whistle to correct the net.
Allow play to continue, anyone remember this!

This isn't specifically addressed in any of the NFHS books so I think it comes down to what is the accepted practice in your area. Around here, everyone hits the whistle and fixes the net immediately. I was working a very competitive boys V game with a couple of officials last week who both do college ball. I was C and the net got stuck after a shot. Not knowing what the college guys around here do, I held my whistle. A split-second later, the T hit his whistle and fixed the net.

Z

Smitty Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:22pm

I had never bothered to fix the net until the next dead ball....until I watched one of the big tournaments here a few weeks back with the top officials in our association working all the games. Every time the net got hung up, they blew the whistle immediately and had it fixed. So now I do too.

JRutledge Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
This isn't specifically addressed in any of the NFHS books so I think it comes down to what is the accepted practice in your area.

Z

It is not addressed in the rulebook or casebook, but the NF did give a ruling on this last year (I believe). In the NF/NASO Guidebook they said not to stop the game every time this happened. They said you might do it once, but if it continues then let it go until the game stops. I could be wrong about when this ruling was given, but I know there was a ruling.

Peace

observer Tue Jan 25, 2005 01:26pm

If and when you stopped play because
of the net, would you allow subs to enter!

Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 25, 2005 01:52pm

Quote:

Originally posted by observer
If and when you stopped play because
of the net, would you allow subs to enter!

By rule, you have to. Dead ball and clock stopped.

gipper Tue Jan 25, 2005 02:22pm

In the pregame warmup the officials should take note that the net gets hung up and see if administration can make a change if possible.

DownTownTonyBrown Tue Jan 25, 2005 02:34pm

I do remember
 
Quote:

Originally posted by observer
I recall reading somewhere if a net hangs up
on the rim because of a made basket, the official
should not blow the whistle to correct the net.
Allow play to continue, anyone remember this!

I do remember the thread. And, like you, I believe the concensus was to allow play to continue. And if I recall correctly, the reason was, that nothing in the rule book allows you to stop play for this situation.

Additionally, many argued that a hung up net will not likely stop the next shot from going through the hoop. So what's the difference - let it hang... or snag.

As others here have also stated, if you kill the play (incorrectly), then you have to let in substitutes - that couldn't have entered until the next legal dead ball.

Perhaps you want to do a Google search to find the previous thread.

DownTownTonyBrown Tue Jan 25, 2005 05:02pm

Maybe I shouldn't have googled
 
Here is what I found...

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/baske...w_off_bul.html

for Women's NCAA Jan 11, 2000
Rules Interpretations.

Net caught on rim after a made basket: How to handle:

If there is a basket attendant supplied by game management, that person can get the net down as play continues to the other end of the court. If play stays at this basket's end (press situation) officials should blow the whistle immediately and get the net down. There would be a possibility of a quick steal and a shot at the basket with the net hung up.

If there is no basket attendant, officials should stop play immediately and get the net down.

If this is a re-occurring situation through the game, game management should be notified by the officials to change the net either at half time or after the game.


And from our discussions in this forum

http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...0&pagenumber=1

http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...?threadid=7092

Some said yes stop and repair others said can't do it.

Camron Rust Tue Jan 25, 2005 05:14pm

Re: I do remember
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Quote:

Originally posted by observer
I recall reading somewhere if a net hangs up
on the rim because of a made basket, the official
should not blow the whistle to correct the net.
Allow play to continue, anyone remember this!

I do remember the thread. And, like you, I believe the concensus was to allow play to continue. And if I recall correctly, the reason was, that nothing in the rule book allows you to stop play for this situation.

Additionally, many argued that a hung up net will not likely stop the next shot from going through the hoop. So what's the difference - let it hang... or snag.

As others here have also stated, if you kill the play (incorrectly), then you have to let in substitutes - that couldn't have entered until the next legal dead ball.

Perhaps you want to do a Google search to find the previous thread.

While there was certainly no definitive ruling on this, there was also not a consenus. There were several proponents of for both sides of this argument. Both side pointed out rules that, to some degree, would support either conclusion.

I happen to fall on the side of fixing the net as soon as hte shot goes through based on the rule that defines how the basket should be constructed and the fact that a ball <em>could</em> be deflected out or off of the rim by a hung net.

Others clearly have different opinions.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:05pm

Re: Maybe I shouldn't have googled
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
Here is what I found...

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/baske...w_off_bul.html

for Women's NCAA Jan 11, 2000
Rules Interpretations.

Net caught on rim after a made basket: How to handle:

If there is a basket attendant supplied by game management, that person can get the net down as play continues to the other end of the court. If play stays at this basket's end (press situation) officials should blow the whistle immediately and get the net down. There would be a possibility of a quick steal and a shot at the basket with the net hung up.

If there is no basket attendant, officials should stop play immediately and get the net down.

If this is a re-occurring situation through the game, game management should be notified by the officials to change the net either at half time or after the game.


And from our discussions in this forum

http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...0&pagenumber=1

http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...?threadid=7092

Some said yes stop and repair others said can't do it.


DTTB:

You are correct with regard to how to handle this situation under NCAA Men's/Women's Rules. Prior to the NCAA ruling there was a NBCofUS&C ruling that applied to both NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's rules which stated that the game should not be stopped to fix the net. With the new NCAA ruling the NBCofUS&C ruling only applies to NFHS rules.

MTD, Sr.


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