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MPLAHE Mon Jan 24, 2005 08:39pm

I need some advice from you seasoned officials out there. I am relatively new, with about 50 games under my belt this year, yet still, on occasion, struggle with remembering the direction the teams are going when making quick out of bounds calls. I remember a post here when I first started where others mentioned this as well. Early on, I would yell, "off blue, red ball" if confused without pointing in the direction of play, but I know this is not proper and can be confusing for the younger players.

I have gotten better with experience, yet on occasion still struggle, especially if I've done several back to back games and lose a little concentration. I will glance at the benches briefly to remind myself before making the call (the proper technique of raising your hand to signal to stop the clock gives you that extra time). Anyone have any pointers in this area? Other than that, I feel very comfortable on the floor and feel good about my overall technique and rules knowledge. My confidence will grow if I can improve in this area.

thanks

Dan_ref Mon Jan 24, 2005 09:12pm


Yeah, it's nothing more than concentrating on the game at hand. For the rookies there is so much to think about it's easy to see how team direction gets confused Even I ( :rolleyes: ) will now & then point in the wrong direction, especially during lower level games that are less than close.

Using the benches as a guide is a good idea, just make sure you get the teams started in the right direction. Another great idea given to me when I was a rook is to just shout the team color without pointing. The teams know which way they're going, give them a few seconds to move in the direction you're going then calmy point. Always works! :)

Mark Padgett Mon Jan 24, 2005 09:16pm

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Originally posted by MPLAHE
Anyone have any pointers in this area?
Good one! ;)

blindzebra Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:53pm

Real simple, don't focus on the directional point, it's the LEAST important part of an OOB call.

Whenever you have a call it should be whistle, dead ball signal, color, and then direction.

At your experience level a good whistle with a loud, "WHITE," and then the proper direction is what you should focus on. Don't be in a hurry to point, if you have a solid whistle and voice, you can be as deliberate as you need on the point.;)

Mark Dexter Tue Jan 25, 2005 09:54am

I have this problem quite a bit - and working 4 or 5 games in a row doesn't help much.

One thing I like to say for the first few posessions of each half is "red coming my way" (if I'm at lead :p) or "blue's on defense" and just repeat it over and over in my head.

Hartsy Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:25am

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Originally posted by MPLAHE
Early on, I would yell, "off blue, red ball" if confused without pointing in the direction of play, but I know this is not proper and can be confusing for the younger players.


A vet official once told me he had this habit. Told me to never say "off (any color)". The colors are heard, but seldom the "off". He felt it confused people, and made him look indecisive.

I have been working on my OOB mechanics too. I like what blindzebra said. It's how I visualize the call in my mind. Just doesn't always come out that way, but when it does, makes you look good.

BktBallRef Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:30am

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Originally posted by MPLAHE
I need some advice from you seasoned officials out there. I am relatively new, with about 50 games under my belt this year, yet still, on occasion, struggle with remembering the direction the teams are going when making quick out of bounds calls. I remember a post here when I first started where others mentioned this as well. Early on, I would yell, "off blue, red ball" if confused without pointing in the direction of play, but I know this is not proper and can be confusing for the younger players.

I have gotten better with experience, yet on occasion still struggle, especially if I've done several back to back games and lose a little concentration. I will glance at the benches briefly to remind myself before making the call (the proper technique of raising your hand to signal to stop the clock gives you that extra time). Anyone have any pointers in this area? Other than that, I feel very comfortable on the floor and feel good about my overall technique and rules knowledge. My confidence will grow if I can improve in this area.

You already have all the pointers. Now, you must simply focus and make yourself do it.

Whistle.
Hand in the air.
"Blue!"
Look at the benches and point the right way.

Do not say, "Off white. Blue ball." :(

rainmaker Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:09am

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
You already have all the pointers. Now, you must simply focus and make yourself do it.

Whistle.
Hand in the air.
"Blue!"
Look at the benches and point the right way.

Do not say, "Off white. Blue ball." :(

I agree with all of this. But I must agree with those that say it gets confusing when you're doing more than one game. Some years, I have worked in various rec leagues where all the teams wore the same two colors, so I'd have two or three games in a row with red and white, or green and white. By the third game, looking at the benches told me nothing because I couldn't remember which half of which game it was. I would just shout the color, wait until they started moving, and then point after that, or not point at all.

JRutledge Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:24am

Out of bounds calls do not need to be made or signaled immediately most of the time. Usually the calls are very easy to make and obvious to most people in the gym. It is those occasional plays that need to be made pretty much on the spot. When I was coming up I would concentrate on calling the color and not pointing. Then when I got much more comfortable, I would give the direction as well as the color simultaneously. This basically comes with time and some practice. I think all younger officials struggle with this problem for awhile. I think many times we feel we need to do everything at once and get ourselves all worried about what can go wrong. Practice in the mirror or in your house somewhere and this will just come with more and more practice.

Peace

MPLAHE Thu Jan 27, 2005 04:30pm

thank you all for the pointers - I will begin to emphasize the call first and the direction second. As I said previously, most of my "problems" have come in the 4th or 5th game in a row and concentration plays a part.

The other problem I had in my most recent game was that one team only had 5 players, so when I looked to that bench for some "color" assistance, there was none.

thanks, all

joseph2493 Thu Jan 27, 2005 04:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by MPLAHE
I need some advice from you seasoned officials out there. I am relatively new, with about 50 games under my belt this year, yet still, on occasion, struggle with remembering the direction the teams are going when making quick out of bounds calls. I remember a post here when I first started where others mentioned this as well. Early on, I would yell, "off blue, red ball" if confused without pointing in the direction of play, but I know this is not proper and can be confusing for the younger players.

I have gotten better with experience, yet on occasion still struggle, especially if I've done several back to back games and lose a little concentration. I will glance at the benches briefly to remind myself before making the call (the proper technique of raising your hand to signal to stop the clock gives you that extra time). Anyone have any pointers in this area? Other than that, I feel very comfortable on the floor and feel good about my overall technique and rules knowledge. My confidence will grow if I can improve in this area.

thanks

Just leave the "off blue" part of your statement out.

Simply blow your whistle get hand up..."red ball"... then look at the bench and point in the right direction.


Smitty Thu Jan 27, 2005 04:43pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
You already have all the pointers. Now, you must simply focus and make yourself do it.

Whistle.
Hand in the air.
"Blue!"
Look at the benches and point the right way.

Do not say, "Off white. Blue ball." :(

I agree with all of this. But I must agree with those that say it gets confusing when you\'re doing more than one game. Some years, I have worked in various rec leagues where all the teams wore the same two colors, so I\'d have two or three games in a row with red and white, or green and white. By the third game, looking at the benches told me nothing because I couldn\'t remember which half of which game it was. I would just shout the color, wait until they started moving, and then point after that, or not point at all.

I worked some adult rec ball recently where the players warmed up before the game in front of their own bench, so they all wanted to go that way to start the game. I was new in the league, so my attempts to get my partner to switch it around were met with that "oh please, let\'s just get this over with" look. Talk about being screwed up with directions. Try working a game when the teams go the opposite way you\'re used to. Gotta love rec ball...

thumpferee Thu Jan 27, 2005 05:21pm

There are some great POINTS here!

One suggestion of mine is, know who\'s side of the court you\'re on or heading towards.

If in transition or unsure, just call out the color as others have told you, and delay your point.

Sometimes I get lost, which is no surprise, and I will just blow whistle with stop clock signal. Then I let the players tell me which way we will go. Probably not a good practice, but works in upper levels where they don\'t need you to decide everything for them.

rainmaker Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:57am

After reading this thread for three days, you\'d think I\'d have been able to get it right, but I didn\'t. Second half, black tries to pass into the post from outside the three point line, white player jumps and clearly tips the ball oob. Everyone in the gym saw it. I blew the whistle, shouted "Black!" and pointed -- White. Of course, no one heard me yell. Fortunately, they also didn\'t hear me cursing under my breath.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 28, 2005 09:11am

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Originally posted by joseph2493
Just leave the "off blue" part of your statement out.

Simply blow your whistle get hand up..."red ball"... then look at the bench and point in the right direction.


And, just say "red" rather than "red ball".



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