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ditttoo Sat Jan 22, 2005 02:25pm

Need the specific applicable rule for high school....

A1 is dribbling up from the backcourt. A1 passes, while in the backcourt to A2. While the pass is in flight, A2, leaves his feet (last in front court), catches pass and lands in backcourt. Pass never breaks the plane of the halfcourt line. Backcourt or not? What's the applicable ruling?

Any specific ruling or reference to case book very much appreciated.

Thanks!


tjones1 Sat Jan 22, 2005 02:30pm

I'll take it he caught the ball in the air....

It's a violation.

ref18 Sat Jan 22, 2005 02:33pm

You are where you were until you get where you're going.

Until A2 lands in the back court he's got front court status, therefore it's a violation when he lands in the backcourt with the ball.

ditttoo Sat Jan 22, 2005 02:38pm

Yes, A2 was in the air when he caught the ball. Yes, it's certainly an "over and back" violation, but what's the specific appliable rule(s)?

thumpferee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:03pm

Rule 9-9-3 See penalty

tjones1 Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:03pm

Sorry, don't have a book with me right now to give you an exact rule. Help please...

tjones1 Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:04pm

Thanks thumpferee

thumpferee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:13pm

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Originally posted by tjones1
Thanks thumpferee
YW.. Hope that's what you were looking 4!

Ref Daddy Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:20pm

ART. 3 . . . A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.
PENALTY: (Section 9) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation.

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:33pm

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Originally posted by Ref Daddy
ART. 3 . . . A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.
PENALTY: (Section 9) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation.

Not applicable,Daddy. This one is only for a defender, or plays related to jump balls and throw-ins.



[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 22nd, 2005 at 03:38 PM]

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:35pm

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Originally posted by ditttoo
Yes, A2 was in the air when he caught the ball. Yes, it's certainly an "over and back" violation, but what's the specific appliable rule(s)?
Case book play 9.9.1SitC(a) is the exact play and gives you the explanation of why it's a violation. Rule 9-9-1 is the applicable rule.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 22nd, 2005 at 03:39 PM]

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:37pm

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Originally posted by thumpferee
Rule 9-9-3 See penalty
Not applicable, Thumper. That rule covers a defender or the violation exception during a throw-in or jump ball.

thumpferee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:40pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Ref Daddy
ART. 3 . . . A player from the team not in control (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in) may legally jump from his/her frontcourt, secure control of the ball with both feet off the floor and return to the floor with one or both feet in the backcourt. The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt.
PENALTY: (Section 9) The ball is dead when the violation occurs and is awarded to the opponents for a throw-in from the designated out-of-bounds spot nearest the violation.

Not applicable,Daddy. This one is only for a defender, or plays related to jump balls and throw-ins.

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Would this be a correct ruling for a backcourt volation JR?

It's all I could find.

Sorry, was off by 2

By the way, Ur Da Man!


[Edited by thumpferee on Jan 22nd, 2005 at 03:43 PM]

BktBallRef Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:54pm

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Originally posted by ditttoo
Pass never breaks the plane of the halfcourt line.
There is no situation where the division line plane comes into play on a possible BC violation. The plane has nothing to do with it.

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 22, 2005 03:55pm

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Originally posted by thumpferee
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