Foul while in the act???

[Adam]

Originally posted by mick

Snaqwells,
I tried to average 4-1/2 fouls a game, but I liked to use all 4 quarters.
mick

I led the team in fouls that year, but this was my worst game. Fouled out a couple of minutes into the 3rd quarter.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by paxsonref
The players should be taught not to worry about what the officals are doing anyway. And as I stated before. . . the call may have been 100% correct. . . the only thing I am saying is that we as officials should work to have that patient whistle, to see the whole play, then to take action on whether a foul is warranted, free throws should be given, or any other penalties should be asessed.

It seems as though too many officials have quick whistles which can get you in to trouble, and I don't necessarily mean from the coaches, but from the way a game should be called in general.

That's a completely different discussion, one that I'll be gald to have if you want to start a separate discussion.

But once the foul, NOT CONTACT, occurs, there's no reason to wait for anything else.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Damian
B-JV last night. A1 is going in for a layup. While in the act if shooting, but before the release, B1 fouls A1. It it not intentional, but enough contact to prevent the shot from being completed. At the last moment, A1 passes to A2 as my whistle goes off.

I called foul while shooting even though A1 passed after the foul. In my opinion, it looked like he was shooting and would have finished the shot had he not been fouled. Part of my reasoning was that if he had been fould sufficiently to prevent the release of the ball, he still would have been considered in the act of shooting.


The easy call would have been to spot it on the baseline.

I was a majority of one on the call and the coach called a timeout to ask me how I arrived at my opinion.

I would like to hear what y'all think of this.

Thanks,
DD

Damian:

This play is a good example of seeing the whole play. You were correct in sounding your whistle when the foul occurred, and your were correct is stating that had B1’s contact prevented A1 from releasing the ball, A1 has to be considered to have been fouled in the act of shooting. But B1’s contact did not keep A1 from releasing the ball for either a shot or pass. Therefore, you have to wait to see the whole play to determine whether B1’s foul was a common foul or a foul against a player in the act of shooting.

MTD, Sr.

[jdccpa]

4-2 states in part......"and if pivoting or stepping when fouled, may complete the usual foot or body movement in any activity while holding the ball"...

I would be inclinced to blow the whistle and wait for the player to complete the play.

If he proceeds to attempt a shot I would put him on the line.

If he passes the ball I would give him the ball OOB.