B1 makes a steal and heads in the wrong direction and pulls up for a jumper. Coach yells at the player in mid-shot and the player throws up an airball and then goes and retrieves the ball. My partner called a traveling violation. Is this a traveling violation?

Yes, as a shot at the opponents basket does not constitute a legitimate shot attempt.

Nope, it's not travelling but it is an illegal second dribble. No change of team possession when shooting at the wrong basket.

You're right, but I nit-picked ya. :D

I can live with that!

So, if you shoot an airball at your own basket and go retrieve it - it is not a violation.

correct, so long as in the official's judgement, it was a legitimate shot attempt.

this is only a violation in the NBA.

Don't you guys mean your opponent's basket? If you shoot at your own basket and throw an airball, you can go get the rebound and dribble, pass or shoot again.

Jurrasic,

I gotta disagree. Talking HS and NCAA, when a player shoots (what we deem a legitimate shot attempt) there is no player control. If he airballs a shot attempt (again this is at his own basket, not the opponent's) he can be the first to touch the ball and there is no double dribble or travel.

Yup, you're completely right. i mis-read sfriede's last post. I'll go back and delete my last post, as it is both wrong and stoopid.

Good catch, Smitty.

And you would be right to disagree. I misread the post and answered it wrong.

No problem. I read your post twice trying to figure out what I was missing and then by the time I posted my response, Smitty had beaten me to the punch!

I was just so confused by your post because you are usually very accurate with your rules knowledge. I had to pause and question myself for a minute there ;)

Wait a second. I've got traveling here. Player is lifting his pivot foot and then starting a dribble: traveling.

as long as he didn't touch the ball after he throw it off the opponent's backboard.

I thought it was an "airball"?

I just deleted that post because of that fact.

You're probably right on an airball, assuming the player was in the air when he threw up the airball. It would be travelling if that player was the first to touch the ball again after he jumped and released it. It can't be travelling right away though because if a teammate touches it first, you'd call it a pass as per R4-43-3b and it would be a legal play. If the airball hits the opponent's backboard instead, you would classify it as a dribble.

Nevadaref, I gave you a chance to comment but you took too long. The only way to travel without the ball is when you gain possesion of the ball while on the floor, set the ball down or drop (call it what you like), stand up and are then the first person to touch the ball.

The pass to yourself that doesn't bounce is an illegal start of a dribble if you move both feet. I know that sounds crazy, but there is a case book play for that very situation. The same goes for a pass to yourself that does bounce if you've lost your dribble, not a travel but an illegal start of a dribble.