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Rick Durkee Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:14pm

I called a foul. Immediately after I identified the offending player, he earned a technical foul. As I reported the first foul to the scorer, he informed me that it was the player's fifth foul. I then informed the coach, the timer, and the player had already gone to the bench. Next, I reported the technical foul, and I assessed an indirect technical to the coach.

First, procedurally, was I correct to notify the coach of the disqualification and start the time for the substitute before reporting the technical?

Second, after thinking about it and subsequently checking the rulebook, I believe I was wrong to assess the indirect technical, since, at the time of the technical, I had not yet informed the coach of the disqualification. Therefore, the player should not have been considered bench personnel, and it should only have been a player technical foul. Do I have it right, after the fact? It was the first and only technical on the coach. Both coaches were very respectful for the entire game, and I don't believe the call had an impact (direct or indirect) on the outcome of the game.


Rick

JRutledge Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:23pm

Report everything, and then deal with any DQs after that.

Player is not bench personnel until you tell the coach he has fouled out. So the coach cannot have an indirect on them in this situation.

You really already answered this on your own.

Peace

Adam Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:34pm

Now you need to call the coach, and send a letter to the editor, to apologize for blowing the call. :D


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