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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 11:05am
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In one of last weekend's games, player A1 dribbled past defender B1, driving into B2, who was facing the other way and stationary, guarding A2. Ref called B2 for a block, saying that he had not established LGP, since he never faced A1. This made sense to me at the time, but now I wonder. This reminds me of when an offensive player is dribbling up court and runs into a defender that is facing the other way. I thought this was a charge. What are the correct guidelines regarding contact with a defensive player who is not guarding the player with the ball?
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 11:12am
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Besides LGP you have to remember that everyone on the floor is entitled to a sopt on the floor. If you consistently called it this way this would give the player with the ball free reign to run into people who may be guarding someone else and get the foul call.

Based on what you describe I would call it player control!
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 11:13am
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Lightbulb Officiate the defense.

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In one of last weekend's games, player A1 dribbled past defender B1, driving into B2, who was facing the other way and stationary, guarding A2. Ref called B2 for a block, saying that he had not established LGP, since he never faced A1. This made sense to me at the time, but now I wonder. This reminds me of when an offensive player is dribbling up court and runs into a defender that is facing the other way. I thought this was a charge. What are the correct guidelines regarding contact with a defensive player who is not guarding the player with the ball?
Jimgolf,
Did the defender do anything illegal? No.
Who initiated contact? Offense.

...Other way. Player control foul. No shots unless the foul is intentional or flagrant.
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 11:28am
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Besides LGP you have to remember that everyone on the floor is entitled to a spot on the floor. If you consistently called it this way this would give the player with the ball free reign to run into people who may be guarding someone else and get the foul call.

Based on what you describe I would call it player control!
I agree with that completely. Happily, the rule book does too.
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 12:22pm
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Re: Officiate the defense.

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...Other way. Player control foul. No shots unless the foul is intentional or flagrant.
mick
In which case it's not a player control foul.
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 12:45pm
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Re: Re: Officiate the defense.

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...Other way. Player control foul. No shots unless the foul is intentional or flagrant.
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In which case it's not a player control foul.
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Old Fri Dec 17, 2004, 02:00pm
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To add to all of the previous (fully correct) responses....

Rember that all LGP does it permit the defender to be in motion at the time of contact. A stationary player is not required to have LGP to draw a charge...provided they get to thier location legally.
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