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Bizket786 Fri Dec 10, 2004 01:48pm

Is it possible to call a technical fould while the ball is live or is it only called during a dead ball. Or is it just up to your judgement whether the foul was severe enough to call a technical or flagrant foul. Such as undercutting someone going to the basket? I personally would call a flagrant fould and eject that person from the game. Is that right?

ChuckElias Fri Dec 10, 2004 02:17pm

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Originally posted by Bizket786
Is it possible to call a technical fould while the ball is live
Sure for any unsportsmanlike act. "Hey ref, you suck." Whack 'em, live ball or dead.

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or is it only called during a dead ball.
Technical fouls for contact are only called during a dead ball. (Although some people argue that fighting is always a technical foul. We'll leave that for another thread.)

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Such as undercutting someone going to the basket? I personally would call a flagrant fould and eject that person from the game. Is that right?
It's probably at least intentional. But whether you call it intentional or flagrant, it would still be a personal foul, b/c it occured during the live ball.

Back In The Saddle Fri Dec 10, 2004 08:31pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Bizket786
Is it possible to call a technical fould while the ball is live
Sure for any unsportsmanlike act. "Hey ref, you suck." Whack 'em, live ball or dead.

..or face guarding or leaving the court unauthorizedly (my newly invented word of the day!) or illegal substitution or ...

BktBallRef Fri Dec 10, 2004 11:08pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Bizket786
Is it possible to call a technical fould while the ball is live
Sure for any unsportsmanlike act. "Hey ref, you suck." Whack 'em, live ball or dead.

..or face guarding or leaving the court unauthorizedly (my newly invented word of the day!) or illegal substitution or ...

Defender touching the ball while the thrower is holding it.

Any player hanging on the rim.


Nevadaref Thu Dec 16, 2004 07:08am

There is also one unsporting technical foul due to contact that I know of.
Try to guess what it is for yourself first, then check 3.3.6 Sit B part (d).

Mark Dexter Thu Dec 16, 2004 08:45am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
There is also one unsporting technical foul due to contact that I know of.
Try to guess what it is for yourself first, then check 3.3.6 Sit B part (d).

I'm going to guess contact with an official?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:28am

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
There is also one unsporting technical foul due to contact that I know of.
Try to guess what it is for yourself first, then check 3.3.6 Sit B part (d).

I'm going to guess contact with an official?


Mark:

Your contact with an offical makes two situations where contact during a live ball is a techncial foul. Of course I thind that NevadaRef means contact between two players.

MTD, Sr.

Mark Dexter Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:35am

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
There is also one unsporting technical foul due to contact that I know of.
Try to guess what it is for yourself first, then check 3.3.6 Sit B part (d).

I'm going to guess contact with an official?


Mark:

Your contact with an offical makes two situations where contact during a live ball is a techncial foul. Of course I thind that NevadaRef means contact between two players.

MTD, Sr.


Yeah - I checked the case book right after I posted. Shoulda known from the numbering.

Good pick-up by NevadaRef.

Nevadaref Sat Dec 18, 2004 06:01am

I only point this out because of #22 on the Part II exam this year, which I am sure that the answer key lists as false.
It was also on the test a couple of years ago and was false then too.

Yet another example of understanding the intent of the test writer.

And yes, I meant contact between two players.


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