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NorthSide Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:07am

High School Basketball in the Midwest:

A1 is dealt a technical foul (unsporting) in the first quarter. In the middle of the third quarter, A1 (same player) receives a technical foul (chin up) off a dunk.

Questions:

1. Is the second technical foul labled as "indirect."
2. Is the player (A1) ejected?
3. Does A1 need to sit out the next game?




blindzebra Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:25am

Quote:

Originally posted by NorthSide
High School Basketball in the Midwest:

A1 is dealt a technical foul (unsporting) in the first quarter. In the middle of the third quarter, A1 (same player) receives a technical foul (chin up) off a dunk.

Questions:

1. Is the second technical foul labled as "indirect."
2. Is the player (A1) ejected?
3. Does A1 need to sit out the next game?




Both are charged directly to the player, and he is ejected.

Whether he needs to sit out the game depends on your local rules, but many areas have suspensions for being ejected from a game.

BOBBYMO Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:29am

High School Basketball in the Midwest:

A1 is dealt a technical foul (unsporting) in the first quarter. In the middle of the third quarter, A1 (same player) receives a technical foul (chin up) off a dunk.

Questions:

1. Is the second technical foul labled as "indirect."
2. Is the player (A1) ejected?
3. Does A1 need to sit out the next game?
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1-The T is a Direct..."hanging or pulling himself up on the rim is also a unsporting act

2-Yes he shall now be ejected ( he has recieved 2 T's )

3- I beleive that this rule is diff. from state to state.



Snake~eyes Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:41am

I've never seen this, so I don't know how I would handle it, so let me ask everyone this, if a kid does a chinup after dunk is that an 'easy' T?

Nevadaref Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:43am

Quote:

Originally posted by NorthSide
High School Basketball in the Midwest:

A1 is dealt a technical foul (unsporting) in the first quarter. In the middle of the third quarter, A1 (same player) receives a technical foul (chin up) off a dunk.

Questions:

1. Is the second technical foul labled as "indirect."
Not in high school (NFHS rules), but it is an indirect in NCAA play, which means that it doesn't count towards his 5 either in college.

2. Is the player (A1) ejected?
Using precise NFHS terminology the player is disqualified. 4-14-1
3. Does A1 need to sit out the next game?
Depends on the local state/league rules, an additional game suspension is NOT required by the NFHS book


blindzebra Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:51am

Quote:

Originally posted by Snake~eyes
I've never seen this, so I don't know how I would handle it, so let me ask everyone this, if a kid does a chinup after dunk is that an 'easy' T?
Yes, it's taunting.

QuebecRef87 Tue Nov 30, 2004 08:27am

Errr... "Direct", "indirect" fouls?? Help me out with these terms plz!

bob jenkins Tue Nov 30, 2004 08:49am

Quote:

Originally posted by Wise Weasel
Errr... "Direct", "indirect" fouls?? Help me out with these terms plz!
FED: "Direct" T's are charged directly to the person committing the infraction. If that person is "bench personnel", then the head coach is "indirectly" caharged with a T. That indirect T doesn't count toward the team totals, but if the head coach earn a combined total of 3 Ts (or 2 direct Ts), the coach is ejected.

NCAA: Direct T's are (generally) for unsporting conduct. Indirect T's are (generally) for everything else.


Ref in PA Tue Nov 30, 2004 08:51am

Players receive direct technical fouls. They are allowed two per game and when received they count toward the limit of 5 personal fouls. When a player received 5 personal fouls or 2 direct technical fouls, that player is disqualified.

A head coach can receive a direct technical foul for his/her antics, or can receive an indirect technical foul for the antics of bench personnel (assistant coaches, substitute players, waterboy, etc.) When the coach receives 2 directs or any combination of indirects and directs that add up to 3, then the head coach is disqualified.

QuebecRef87 Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:47pm

Thanks a lot to both of you for the answers!

Quote:

Originally posted by Ref in PA
Players receive direct technical fouls. They are allowed two per game [...]
You probably mean one per game; they are ejected when they rech 2! ;)

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Wise Weasel
Thanks a lot to both of you for the answers!

Quote:

Originally posted by Ref in PA
Players receive direct technical fouls. They are allowed two per game [...]
You probably mean one per game; they are ejected when they rech 2! ;)

And, by that same logic players are allowed four fouls before being disqualified?

QuebecRef87 Tue Nov 30, 2004 01:25pm

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lol...

Yes, but Ref in PA said it differently:
Quote:

When a player received 5 personal fouls or 2 direct technical fouls, that player is disqualified.
Anyway, I wasn't serious when I corrected him. You don't have a good sense of humor! :p


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