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scat03 Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:04am

some one out there please give me the explaination of a jump stop. what you can and cant do after you land on 2 feet????? while off the dribble or after catching the ball in the air? thanks

bob jenkins Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:22am

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Originally posted by scat03
some one out there please give me the explaination of a jump stop. what you can and cant do after you land on 2 feet????? while off the dribble or after catching the ball in the air? thanks
1) If you control the ball while one foot is on the ground, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

2) If you control the ball while in the air and land on one foot, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

3) If you control the ball while in the air and land on both feet simultaneously, either can be the pivot.



Lotto Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:15pm

From the 2005 NCAA rule book:

Section 42. Jump Stop. Art. 1. A jump stop is executed when a player catches the ball while moving or dribbling with: a. One foot on the playing court, jumps off that foot and lands simultaneously on both feet (no pivot foot). b. Two feet off the playing court, lands on one foot, jumps off that foot and lands simultaneously on both feet (no pivot foot). Art. 2. A jump stop may also be executed when the dribbler has one foot on the playing court, initiates a jump off that foot, ends the dribble with both feet off the playing court and lands simultaneously on both feet (either foot can be established as the pivot foot).

Damian Thu Nov 04, 2004 04:02pm

Good explanation
 
By saying that neither is a pivot foot, after jumping off of one foot and landing simultaneously on two, you may raise one foot off of the floor, but, if you put it down you are traveling.

rainmaker Thu Nov 04, 2004 05:20pm

Re: Good explanation
 
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Originally posted by Damian
By saying that neither is a pivot foot, after jumping off of one foot and landing simultaneously on two, you may raise one foot off of the floor, but, if you put it down you are traveling....
Only before a shot or a pass. Neither foot may be lifted before the ball is released to start a dribble. 5-43-4b

Camron Rust Fri Nov 05, 2004 05:07am

Re: Good explanation
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Damian
By saying that neither is a pivot foot, after jumping off of one foot and landing simultaneously on two, you may raise one foot off of the floor, but, if you put it down you are traveling.
And that is because a pivot is not defined as lifting a foot but as lifting a foot and placing back on the floor.

carldog Fri Nov 05, 2004 06:00am

Good discussion of this topic is found here:

http://www.nfhs.org/scriptcontent/va...;f=11;t=000307

ChuckElias Fri Nov 05, 2004 06:34am

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
1) If you control the ball while one foot is on the ground, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

2) If you control the ball while in the air and land on one foot, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

3) If you control the ball while in the air and land on both feet simultaneously, either can be the pivot

Since these are obviously different maneuvers, it's dumb to call them by the same name. To avoid confusion, everybody (well, me, anyway :rolleyes: ) is recommending that we call only #3 a jumpstop. #1 and #2 are to be called a hopstop. :)

dblref Fri Nov 05, 2004 08:47am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by bob jenkins
1) If you control the ball while one foot is on the ground, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

2) If you control the ball while in the air and land on one foot, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

3) If you control the ball while in the air and land on both feet simultaneously, either can be the pivot

Since these are obviously different maneuvers, it's dumb to call them by the same name. To avoid confusion, everybody (well, me, anyway :rolleyes: ) is recommending that we call only #3 a jumpstop. #1 and #2 are to be called a hopstop. :)

Oh, No! Here comes the "hopstop" again. Isn't this the word that you trotted out in a previous discuss about a jump stop? The Bosox winning the WS does not entitle you to make up words.:D

dblref Fri Nov 05, 2004 08:47am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by bob jenkins
1) If you control the ball while one foot is on the ground, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

2) If you control the ball while in the air and land on one foot, you can jump off that foot and land on both simultaneously. Neither can be the pivot.

3) If you control the ball while in the air and land on both feet simultaneously, either can be the pivot

Since these are obviously different maneuvers, it's dumb to call them by the same name. To avoid confusion, everybody (well, me, anyway :rolleyes: ) is recommending that we call only #3 a jumpstop. #1 and #2 are to be called a hopstop. :)

Oh, No! Here comes the "hopstop" again. Isn't this the word that you trotted out in a previous discussion about a jump stop? The Bosox winning the WS does not entitle you to make up words.:D

ChuckElias Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:58am

Apparently, the Yankees not winning the World Series causes you to double post!! :D

Yes, the term "hopstop" is silly. But I really do think it just makes sense to coin a different word for the two different maneuvers. Every time somebody mentions the jump stop, we have to have this same dumb conversation. "Well, there are actually two different cases. . ." Sigh.

Personally, I think "hopstop" is slightly better than Dan's suggestion, which was "Bob".

rainmaker Fri Nov 05, 2004 01:28pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Apparently, the Yankees not winning the World Series causes you to double post!! :D

Yes, the term "hopstop" is silly. But I really do think it just makes sense to coin a different word for the two different maneuvers. Every time somebody mentions the jump stop, we have to have this same dumb conversation. "Well, there are actually two different cases. . ." Sigh.

Personally, I think "hopstop" is slightly better than Dan's suggestion, which was "Bob".

Yes, but even "Bob" would be better than "Bruce". Although I can't remember who suggested "Bruce"...

Back In The Saddle Fri Nov 05, 2004 02:38pm

Anybody for "Thing 1" and "Thing 2"?


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