Let's go through the four criteria for a backcourt violation:

- Team Control
- Frontcourt Status obtained
- Team A last to touch in frontcourt
- Team A first to touch after the ball went to the backcourt

Obviously, your play fits the last 3 criteria. According to Rule 4-12-3, team control continues until "The ball is in flight for a try, an opponent secures control, or the ball becomes dead."

Since Team B never secured control of the ball, Team A retained team control throughout the play and a backcourt violation should be called.

Team A has ball in the frontcourt. Team B tips the ball away. In the scramble for the loose ball Team A tips the ball into the backcourt. It is recovered by Team A in the backcourt. Is this a backcourt violation?

[quote]Originally posted by ken roberts on 12-14-1999 12:15 PM
Let's go through the four criteria for a backcourt violation:quote]

Agreed.

Thanks, Ken, for answering this with the criteria. If we approach every BC situation in these terms, there shouldn't be a problem.

(Keeping in mind the two exceptions and one note in 9-9).

Well, i pilfered the nifty idea of explaining backcourt violations by its four discrete criteria from Mark Padgett, so he deserves the credit...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Geneva">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ken roberts on 12-14-1999 02:45 PM
Well, i pilfered the nifty idea of explaining backcourt violations by its four discrete criteria from Mark Padgett, so he deserves the credit...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Speaking of Mark Padgett, where has he been anyway?

So that's who I stole it from? I couldn't remember.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Geneva">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ralph Stubenthal on 12-14-1999 03:52 PM
Speaking of Mark Padgett, where has he been anyway?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've just been incredibly busy at work working on marketing plans to release two new software products that I haven't been able to check the boards (here and McGriff) until I get home at night AFTER my games. I have had games 14 out of the last 16 days. I'll be off work and games the week between the holidays and maybe I'll catch up. BTW - I heard the most politically correct holiday greeting yesterday: "Have a happy whatever, if anything."