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Mark Padgett Mon Jan 29, 2001 06:47pm
I was talking with Dave this afternoon about some upcoming assignments and he reminded me about a conversation we had with some other refs about two years ago. Just for fun, I thought I'd post it again for the newbies.

Two crews had forfeits one Saturday during a tournament so we were sitting around, killing time until our next game. We decided to try and "top" one another and come up with what would be the strangest game situation. Here was the winner (actually, I forgot who said this, but it wasn't either Dave or me).

You are officiating a game on a cruise ship. A1 inbounds to A2 in their backcourt. Just as he does, the ship crosses the international dateline and it is now yesterday. Does A2 now get 23 hours, 59 minutes and 10 seconds to get the ball across the division line?

Obviously, it's a joke (just in case you have the brains of a coach), but it did win the prize (an autographed dartboard of Bobby Knight).

ilya Mon Jan 29, 2001 07:39pm
:D

co2ice Mon Jan 29, 2001 08:33pm
OR IS IT TOMORROW AND TEAM A IS 23 HOURS 59 MINUTES AND 50 SECONDS TOO LONG CROSSING THE DIVISION LINE????

hoopsrefBC Tue Jan 30, 2001 02:41am
Mark,
Now to throw a wrinkle into the picture. Since the internation date line is in international waters would you use a ten second back-court count or use the FIBA eight second back-court count??

your canadian friend
SH
keep smiling

mikesears Tue Jan 30, 2001 08:06am
Quote:
Originally posted by hoopsrefBC
Mark,
Now to throw a wrinkle into the picture. Since the internation date line is in international waters would you use a ten second back-court count or use the FIBA eight second back-court count??

your canadian friend
SH
keep smiling
And how long is a metric second?

Danvrapp Tue Jan 30, 2001 09:17am
Wait a minute here!!!
 
<html>If you're now one day behind where you started (a full 24 hours) wouldn't you have 23 hours, 59 minutes and <b><u><i>50</i></u></b> seconds to cross the line? I thought you only got 10 seconds, not 50? Am I confused? Maybe I should never referee a game on a cruise ship?! </html>

Gary Brendemuehl Tue Jan 30, 2001 09:35am
Actually, you have a dead ball. Since it's now yesterday, the game hasn't started yet, so nullify all points scored, consumed time and additional activity which may occur prior to the crossing of the international dateline and head for the ship's bar!

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 30, 2001 12:08pm
Re: Wait a minute here!!!
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Danvrapp
<html>If you're now one day behind where you started (a full 24 hours) wouldn't you have 23 hours, 59 minutes and <b><u><i>50</i></u></b> seconds to cross the line? I thought you only got 10 seconds, not 50? Am I confused? Maybe I should never referee a game on a cruise ship?! </html>
That rule only counts on aircraft carriers.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 30, 2001 12:11pm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mikesears
Quote:
Originally posted by hoopsrefBC
Mark,
And how long is a metric second?
I know that was a joke, but I'll answer it anyway. Years ago, I worked at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (where we had a sign posted in the gift shop saying that shoplifters would be turned over to our laboratories for experimentation), and there was an exhibit on the metric system. It stated that units of time, such as seconds and minutes, were metric units. The reason given was that the International Metric Association said so!

Another reason why I hate anything Euro.

mikesears Tue Jan 30, 2001 01:50pm
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Quote:
Originally posted by mikesears
Quote:
Originally posted by hoopsrefBC
Mark,
And how long is a metric second?
I know that was a joke, but I'll answer it anyway. Years ago, I worked at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (where we had a sign posted in the gift shop saying that shoplifters would be turned over to our laboratories for experimentation), and there was an exhibit on the metric system. It stated that units of time, such as seconds and minutes, were metric units. The reason given was that the International Metric Association said so!

Another reason why I hate anything Euro.
Then all those reaches and over-the-backs must be fouls because coaches say so :-b

Bradley Batt Tue Jan 30, 2001 06:16pm
Quote:
It stated that units of time, such as seconds and minutes, were metric units. The reason given was that the International Metric Association said so!
Obviously not... If seconds and minutes were metric there would be 100 seconds in a minute and 100 minutes in an hour.

williebfree Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:09pm
Quote:
Originally posted by Bradley Batt
Quote:
It stated that units of time, such as seconds and minutes, were metric units. The reason given was that the International Metric Association said so!
Obviously not... If seconds and minutes were metric there would be 100 seconds in a minute and 100 minutes in an hour.
And a 100 Hours per day.....

Hawks Coach Tue Jan 30, 2001 10:21pm
And 100 editions of Sportscenter

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 31, 2001 05:53pm
Quote:
Originally posted by hoopsrefBC
Mark,
Now to throw a wrinkle into the picture. Since the internation date line is in international waters would you use a ten second back-court count or use the FIBA eight second back-court count??

your canadian friend
SH
keep smiling
Well, that depends on what flag the ship is flying.
Stars and stripes - ten seconds
Anything else - eight seconds

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 31, 2001 06:02pm
In this "situation," I think you need to realize that the international date line is a man-made animal, while the rules of basketball were written by God Himself.

Now, God always supercedes men, so the ten second consecutive count applies.

hoopsrefBC Thu Feb 01, 2001 04:07am
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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:
Originally posted by hoopsrefBC
Mark,
Now to throw a wrinkle into the picture. Since the internation date line is in international waters would you use a ten second back-court count or use the FIBA eight second back-court count??

your canadian friend
SH
keep smiling
Well, that depends on what flag the ship is flying.
Stars and stripes - ten seconds
Anything else - eight seconds
Except for the mighty US Navy, how many other ship would fly the stars and stripes in international waters.?


and Mark ....Mr. Naismith is GOD and he was Canadian.
SH


[Edited by hoopsrefBC on Feb 1st, 2001 at 03:10 AM]

mikesears Thu Feb 01, 2001 08:31am
Quote:
Originally posted by Mark Dexter
In this "situation," I think you need to realize that the international date line is a man-made animal, while the rules of basketball were written by God Himself.

Now, God always supercedes men, so the ten second consecutive count applies.
God must be from the United States if we use the 10 second count. ;-)


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