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JRutledge Mon Oct 04, 2004 04:35pm

SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!!
 
That is all I have to say.

Peace

SF Mon Oct 04, 2004 06:00pm

Rut,

I'm sure that's what we are all thinking... but never get a chance to say.

JRutledge Mon Oct 04, 2004 06:11pm

Quote:

Originally posted by SF
Rut,

I'm sure that's what we are all thinking... but never get a chance to say.

I know. <a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_107.gif' alt='Shut Up' border=0></a>

Happy I could oblige.

Peace

mick Mon Oct 04, 2004 08:22pm

Re: SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by JRutledge
That is all I have to say.

Peace

Rut, Rut, Rut....
C'mon now!
"Anything" is <U>never</U> all you have to say. ;)
mick

mick Mon Oct 04, 2004 08:35pm

Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
Mick,

If you give coaches something that lengthy, most of them won't read it.

Besides, a lot of youth leagues don't want the tower philosophy. They just want a tight game with very little contact and all violations called rather than some adv/dis.

Z

Z,
I dunno about youth leagues, so if you say it's so, I believe you.
But what if just one coach read it, and then, what if he just happened to mention it?
Then,... drip by drip by drip....
Shucks, if there's a soap box why not step on up? :)
mick

rainmaker Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:19am

I'm thinking about trying this one:

"Coach, the better you are at your job, the better I can be at my job."

SMEngmann Tue Oct 05, 2004 05:17am

The problem with youth league games is always that the referees at that level are generally inexperienced in how to deal with coaches, so the coaches, not to mention the parents in the stands following the coach's lead, get away with murder. I think that if an almost zero-tolerance policy were put into place at the youth level that the amount of abuse would taper significantly. At the youth level, there are too many inexperienced coaches who want to be Bobby Knight and too many inexperienced officials who can't handle them.

zebraman Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by zebraman
Mick,

If you give coaches something that lengthy, most of them won't read it.

Besides, a lot of youth leagues don't want the tower philosophy. They just want a tight game with very little contact and all violations called rather than some adv/dis.

Z

Z,
I dunno about youth leagues, so if you say it's so, I believe you.
But what if just one coach read it, and then, what if he just happened to mention it?
Then,... drip by drip by drip....
Shucks, if there's a soap box why not step on up? :)
mick

Mick,

I'm a hopeless optimist too. Go with it. :)

Z

Grail Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:34am

Be careful in how you communicate these various opinions to the coaches. You don't want it to sound adversarial. If the coaches are put on the defensive before the season begins you may find more problems than you solve.

Also look out for the message. Telling someone they need to read the rule book before they argue about the rules is fine. However, once they do read the book, the officials better know and enforce the rules that are in the book. That initial comment can come back to bite you.

rainmaker Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:21am

Quote:

Originally posted by Grail
Be careful in how you communicate these various opinions to the coaches. You don't want it to sound adversarial. If the coaches are put on the defensive before the season begins you may find more problems than you solve.

Also look out for the message. Telling someone they need to read the rule book before they argue about the rules is fine. However, once they do read the book, the officials better know and enforce the rules that are in the book. That initial comment can come back to bite you.

And you'd better hope the coach has studied the different interpretations and knows which ones apply in his locale. Even us refs don't agree about some things, and coaches need to be willing to let the refs do the interpreting.

garote Tue Oct 05, 2004 01:35pm

"Guarding is the act of legally placing your body in the path of an offensive opponent. THERE IS NO MINIMUM DISTANCE REQUIRED between the guard and opponent...." 4-23-1

So stop yelling, "get him off,” Teach your dribbler to move better. I'm not going to penalize great defensive work.

Jimgolf Tue Oct 05, 2004 02:35pm

Thanks for all your suggestions. By the way, I'm not too worried that any of my coaches will actually go out and purchase a rule book, but I'll let them know they should go through me before bringing up specific rules with refs.


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