I'd like a little clarification on the spot throw-in. Regarding the 3 foot side-to-side limitation, is it necessary to have at least one foot on the floor within that corridor, or can a player be in the process of leaping (for example to get the ball over someone's outstretched arms) as he's moving sideways?

the book says you can jump straight up to make a pass over someone's arms, but also says you have to stay within the 3 foot area with one foot, so probably a judgement call?????

You just need to keep a foot "over" the 3-foot wide area, not necessarily touching the floor.

Z

Yes, the thrower can leap. The thrower must keep one foot on OR OVER the spot until the ball is released. Casebook play 7.6.2

Is there a casebook play or a rule that directly addresses a situation where the inbounder jumps so that s/he is completly over the inbounds portion of the court before releasing the ball? I thought there was a casebook play that ruled this situation as a violation, but I can't find it.

Can the person taking the ball out of bounds actually jump up and down within that 3 feet as long as they release the ball before the 5 second count?

Time to drag out the attic-residing briefcases!

Yes. There are no traveling or pivot foot rules in effect during the throw-in.

Yup. and, no, it's not travelling. It's not even travelling if they leave the 3-foot area. There is no player control on an inbounds play, so there can be no travelling. Period.

soooooooooooooo
 

if you have a spot throw in and they run down the line...what would you have then, if you don't have traveling?????

but....but....but....butt.

I've seen refs call traveling on this play; so it must be traveling. :D

jritchie,
It's simply a throw in violation. Same signal you use for calling out of bounds, or when the throwin is handed off, etc.

Follow-up
 

Just want to make sure about something. Can a player leave the spot, then return and inbound the ball from the spot area before the 5-second count expires or do they have to remain within the spot all the time before the release?

4-41
7-6

Must assume throw-in spot is out-of-bounds. ;)
mick

Book rule for that is where????
 

i've always seen it called traveling by every ref i have ever seen the violation on... i would love to be able to show them that in the rule book it is not a travel.. i've always seen it that way, so i guess that's why i call it that way....LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY!! :)

Re: Book rule for that is where????
 

If you want to show them in the rule book that there is no such thing as a travel during a throw-in, simply point them to Basketball Fundamentals #2 and #5. Number 5 explicitly states it and #2 implies it because you can't travel if you don't have player control. It doesn't get any more fundamental than that.;)

9-2-1.The player shall not...."leave the designated throw -in spot until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass."

And??

[B]Yeah, and then what...we got that part, we need to know what it says after that????? all i have with me is my case book, it skips 9-2-1...guess they didn't think they needed an example of that.. :)

It simply says that it's a violation. To signal it, according to the NFHS official signal list at the end of the rules you use:
1) Signal 1- "start clock"- but raised arm does NOT chop time in.
-followed by:
2) Signal 25- "designated spot or other violations"

Couldn't be simpler.

Sorry...was answering PGCougar :0

ROFLMAO. From Spring 1991 to Spring 2003, I was on 800 mg per day of Motrin for my knees, when I then had my knee scoped, my ortho put me on 50 mg per day of Vioxx. I guess I am not going climb the ladder to go up in the attic for a while am I.

MTD, Sr.

From Spring 1991 to Spring 2003, I was on 800 mg per day of Motrin for my knees, when I then had my knee scoped, my ortho put me on 50 mg per day of Vioxx.

[/B][/QUOTE]Whoa, Mark. Check out today's new's stories, please. They're taking Vioxx off of the market. Not good for us old guys- doubles the chance of us having heart attacks or strokes. I was on Celebrex for my knees too- and my doctor took me off of it months ago for the same reason.

Att'n- MTD Sr.
 

Mark, check out this link:
http://health.yahoo.com/search/healt...$&p=id%3A63516

Hopefully not anymore. :eek:

I think Mark already knew that. I think that's why he won't be going up the ladder for a while -- b/c they've taken away his pain meds.

Gosh Chuck, if you understood what I meant you must be off your meds too. :-)

MTD, Sr.

Re: Re: Book rule for that is where????
 

It is also in 6-1-1.
"...a jump ball in the center restraining circle, by a throw-in or by a free throw. The dribble and traveling rules are not in effect in these situations."

The meds I was on last week, I was climbing the walls. I'd have been glad to get his briefcase down for him!

ROFLMAO

Come on, Mark, it wasn't THAt funny!

Oh yes it was, because when I was on my meds, my wife would lock me in the attic. ;-) ;-) ;-)

Just to clarify
 

Just to clarify.

So for a spot throw-in, the player throwing the ball in has a 3-foot "box" to work in and he can move within that "box" and it's not a violation?

What if he leaves that 3-foot "box"? Snaqwells said it's not traveling but simply a throw-in violation. So is the penalty to award the ball to the opposing team?

Re: Just to clarify
 

That's correct.

That's also correct.

Welcome to the forum! :)

Re: Just to clarify
 

A 3-foot wide "box" that extends as far back as can be gone. He only has to keep one foot over that three foot "box". Which, if you think about it, makes that three foot "box" pretty wide. For example, he can move left in that box until only his right foot is over the box, then move back right until only his left foot is over that box. He can move back as far as he likes. If there's 10 feet back to the wall, he's got 10 feet. And, of course, he can jump. Multiple times.

Thanks!
 

Wow! Thanks all for the clarifications.

I always thought the traveling rules apply to the person throwing-in the ball as well (i.e. pivot foot rules). Like most of the people in the thread had indicated, I had seen multiple times traveling being called on the person throwing the ball in, both in the NBA and the NCAA. Maybe it's different for them but now I'm crystal clear on how it should be for the NFHS.

Thanks again!

Re: Thanks!
 

And now it's your duty and pleasure to find the balance between correcting others who don't have a clue, and feeling quietly smug and superior to be "in the know" yourself.

Re: Re: Thanks!
 

I find the quietly smug part to be a lot more fun :D

Re: Re: Re: Thanks!
 

yes, and as a rule, more politically wise. However, the occasional authoritative word thrown into a clueless conversation has its afterglow.