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brandan89 Tue Sep 28, 2004 09:04pm

I get a phone call today and it is from a coach from a local High School. He says hey Brandan, a week from Thursday we have a scrimage do you want to come and work with Butch (the schools princeapal.) I said sure why not.. Then he gets on to say this is a fundraiser so I dont know if we can pay you is that ok. I told him I would get back to him.. lol.. I didnt know what else to tell him. What do you think?

Mark Dexter Tue Sep 28, 2004 09:22pm

Money isn't the only valuable thing you can get from working a basketball game . . .

Tim Roden Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:24pm

I thought the definition of a scrimmage was you don't get paid. Don't worry about it. Go have fun and get ready for the season.

garote Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:29pm

Work the game for the exercise and for the rust you'll shake off before the (pre) season starts.

BktBallRef Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:35pm

It's not unusual to not get paid for a scrimmage. Go to work.

oc Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:39pm

I'd take a HS varsity game for free right about now. Mid-season I'd laugh at that request but not now.

DownTownTonyBrown Wed Sep 29, 2004 01:23am

Donate your pay... after you get it.
 
I had a veteran tell me one time... don't ever do it for free. You never know when the whole thing will blow up then you are committed to suffer through it and you will feel really stupid because you are not getting paid for this abuse.

So his moral was get paid... and then if all went well and you wish to donate to the cause... donate your check back to them.

Same difference but then you are not vulnerable for the unexpected problems that may arise.

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 29, 2004 01:26am

Make sure that you're insured, either with your own insurance or through the school's insurance.

JRutledge Wed Sep 29, 2004 02:22am

It is rather common in my parts to get paid for a scrimmage. Not all the time of course, but most seem to pay something.

Peace

ChrisSportsFan Wed Sep 29, 2004 07:26am

Sure, getting paid is better then not getting paid. However, he probably called because he new you'd do a good job and I bet it wasn't easy for him to ask you to do it for gratis. It would definately be a feather in your cap (unless your cap is already full), and I think these things usually have a way of working out and coming back around. Maybe future games or something. Still it's your choice.

jritchie Wed Sep 29, 2004 07:49am

Insurance??
 
if both refs are not licensed, then the schools insurance is void...if the princ.is not licensed then tell them that!! if two of you go over that are licensed, they may find a little something for you..they usually do!!! And if not, mark it up for practice...will help down the road

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 29, 2004 09:44am

Re: Insurance??
 
Quote:

Originally posted by jritchie
if both refs are not licensed, then the schools insurance is void...if the princ.is not licensed then tell them that!!
I think that that depends on the school board and state. Some insurance plans automatically cover anybody who gets paid by the school as a sub-contractor.

jritchie Wed Sep 29, 2004 09:56am

probably true...
 
i know in our district and state, that you have to have licensed officials for insurance to be active...if not i feel sorry for the officials that would call and not have a license.... all states should be like this...it would help some of the younger players have someone calling that actually knows the rules

brandan89 Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:17am

... I have insurance... So I am covered.

roadking Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:57am

fundraiser, if its a good cause,go have fun.

Mark Dexter Wed Sep 29, 2004 07:04pm

Experience?

Hell, I was talking about a chance to check out the cheerleaders. :p

Dan_ref Wed Sep 29, 2004 07:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Experience?

Hell, I was talking about a chance to check out the cheerleaders. :p

Yeah, that's good, just don't get caught staring at them.

BTW brandan89, work this game & have fun.

brandan89 Wed Sep 29, 2004 09:42pm

Does any body know a site where I can go to to get the new rules, I havent recieved my new books in the mail yet. I need to learn them for the game Tues. Thanks for all the insight.

Nevadaref Thu Sep 30, 2004 01:20am

Quote:

Originally posted by brandan89
Does any body know a site where I can go to to get the new rules, I havent recieved my new books in the mail yet. I need to learn them for the game Tues. Thanks for all the insight.
This seems a little obvious, but http://www.nfhs.org

ChuckElias Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:13am

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
This seems a little obvious, but http://www.nfhs.org
It might seem obvious, but I don't think it will help. My understanding is that the FED doesn't make its rules available online, b/c they make too much money by selling the books. You could always go to the site and order the books, but I don't think that's what Brandon was asking for.

bob jenkins Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:16am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
This seems a little obvious, but http://www.nfhs.org
It might seem obvious, but I don't think it will help. My understanding is that the FED doesn't make its rules available online, b/c they make too much money by selling the books. You could always go to the site and order the books, but I don't think that's what Brandon was asking for.

True -- but you can read a summary of the changes, and the press release announcing the changes there. That will be enough to allow Brandan to work the scrimmage.


ChuckElias Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:23am

Good to know, thanks, Bob. I never go there b/c somebody always posts the changes here; so I didn't realize that was available.

Sorry, Nevada!! :)


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