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Burtis449 Thu Sep 23, 2004 01:33pm

During a boys AAU game last weekend,during a free throw, The ball came to rest on the flange between the rim and the glass backboard. It was the first shot of a two-shot foul.
What is the procedure? (National Federation)

Camron Rust Thu Sep 23, 2004 01:39pm

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Originally posted by Burtis449
During a boys AAU game last weekend,during a free throw, The ball came to rest on the flange between the rim and the glass backboard. It was the first shot of a two-shot foul.
What is the procedure? (National Federation)

Get the ball down and shoot the 2nd FT. It's simply a miss.

I'm pretty sure this would be the same for NCAA and NBA and FIBA and FBNCNBA ;).

If on anypart of a 1+1 or last of 2 or 3, go to the arrow.

jritchie Thu Sep 23, 2004 01:52pm

talk about a soft touch!! :)
what would be the appropriate time to wait to make sure it's not going to fall in?

bob jenkins Thu Sep 23, 2004 02:07pm

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Originally posted by jritchie
talk about a soft touch!! :)
what would be the appropriate time to wait to make sure it's not going to fall in?

When it comes to rest (stops moving)

rainmaker Thu Sep 23, 2004 02:28pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by jritchie
talk about a soft touch!! :)
what would be the appropriate time to wait to make sure it's not going to fall in?

When it comes to rest (stops moving)

And wait a little to see. I blew this once too soon, and it fell off, just as I was at full whistle. What a stupid mistake!!

cford Thu Sep 23, 2004 02:43pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by jritchie
talk about a soft touch!! :)
what would be the appropriate time to wait to make sure it's not going to fall in?

When it comes to rest (stops moving)

And wait a little to see. I blew this once too soon, and it fell off, just as I was at full whistle. What a stupid mistake!!

I assume you mean it was a mistake b/c it was the 2nd or the first of a one & one. You then had to go by the arrow since you blew your whistle. If it was the 1st of 2 then you would just call it an inadvertent whistle.

I had something similar happen recently where the ball nicked the rim but the center thought it missed. The center blew her whistle to call a violation. The ball actually went out of bounds and I was just going to let it go but the trail blew his whistle and called a jump ball. The trail did the right thing because there was not a violation on the shooter. Luckly the arrow was going the other way so the coach didn't raise hell about it (or even know what was going on :)).

cford Thu Sep 23, 2004 02:49pm

This got me thinking.

I'm guessing that the reason there is a jump ball when the ball gets stuck between the rim and the backboard on a shot is because there is no team control, right? If this is the reasoning for it then what is the ruling if it happens on a cross court pass or an alley oop? Still a jump ball?

ChuckElias Thu Sep 23, 2004 03:01pm

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Originally posted by cford
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Originally posted by rainmaker
I blew this once too soon, and it fell off, just as I was at full whistle. What a stupid mistake!!
I assume you mean it was a mistake b/c it was the 2nd or the first of a one & one. You then had to go by the arrow since you blew your whistle. If it was the 1st of 2 then you would just call it an inadvertent whistle.

You'd also call it an inadvertant whistle if the ball fell through the basket. Score the point and play on.

SamIAm Thu Sep 23, 2004 04:25pm

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Originally posted by cford
This got me thinking.

I'm guessing that the reason there is a jump ball when the ball gets stuck between the rim and the backboard on a shot is because there is no team control, right? If this is the reasoning for it then what is the ruling if it happens on a cross court pass or an alley oop? Still a jump ball?

Still a jump ball, unless it is on an in-bounds pass. On an in-bounds pass it is a violation against the inbounding team.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Sep 23, 2004 08:29pm

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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by Burtis449
During a boys AAU game last weekend,during a free throw, The ball came to rest on the flange between the rim and the glass backboard. It was the first shot of a two-shot foul.
What is the procedure? (National Federation)

Get the ball down and shoot the 2nd FT. It's simply a miss.

I'm pretty sure this would be the same for NCAA and NBA and FIBA and FBNCNBA ;).

If on anypart of a 1+1 or last of 2 or 3, go to the arrow.


FBNCNBA ????

jritchie Fri Sep 24, 2004 09:53am

good point sam!!!
 
i have seen this happen coming from out of bounds, and the couple times it has i have seen it called a jump ball...not realizing it is a violation coming from out of bounds! a lot just put the two together and go with the possesion arrow


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