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jritchie Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:59pm

had this happen, player A takes a long 3 point attempt or any shot for that matter, the shot is such a brick it bounces back into back court before anyone else touches it, team A finally rebounds the ball, Violation or not? i feel that if the defense is not going to rebound the ball and team A can get to it, they shouldn't be penalized, just can't find nothing like that in the rule book, a coach did argue with me that it should be a violation....

eastcoastref Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:04pm

Not a violation.

Once the shot is attempted, there is no longer team control of the ball. Thus, team A does not have control of the ball when it goes backcourt, meaning either team can touch the basketball first without violating.

blindzebra Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:16pm

This missed shot may even be tapped out and into the back court by team A, without a violation.

Dan_ref Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:29pm

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Originally posted by blindzebra
This missed shot may even be tapped out and into the back court by team A, without a violation.
Hmmmm....can A1 tap tap tap the ball, run OOB, do the hokey pokey, run back in & then be the first to touch it?


jritchie Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:38pm

yes they can do the hokey pokey and turn around even, then as long as they establish on the court position they can touch it first...

DownTownTonyBrown Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:41pm

hokey pokey
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Hmmmm....can A1 tap tap tap the ball, run OOB, do the hokey pokey, run back in & then be the first to touch it?

I think .... YES! As long as you don't consider the "Tap tap tap" an air DRIBBLE.

Is that the left foot first or the right foot that you put in? :D

Jurassic Referee Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:42pm

NFHS casebook plays 4.12.2 and 4.12.6(b) oughta handle this one.

Camron Rust Wed Sep 22, 2004 01:45pm

and the ball may sit in the backcourt until time runs out; there is no backcourt count until team control is regained.

Now the question is, what if the refs shoes weren't shiney or they were wearing a belt? :)

rainmaker Wed Sep 22, 2004 07:09pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
and the ball may sit in the backcourt until time runs out; there is no backcourt count until team control is regained.

Now the question is, what if the refs shoes weren't shiney or they were wearing a belt? :)

I thought you were going to say that the question was whether team B was "in the path" of the team A player who tap-tap-tapped the ball.

BktBallRef Wed Sep 22, 2004 09:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
and the ball may sit in the backcourt until time runs out; there is no backcourt count until team control is regained.

Now the question is, what if the refs shoes weren't shiney or they were wearing a belt? :)

I thought you were going to say that the question was whether team B was "in the path" of the team A player who tap-tap-tapped the ball.

Hey Juules, Carl says they published my article on the 8th. I never saw it, did you?

cmathews Wed Sep 22, 2004 09:21pm

another hokey pokey reference
 
With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment,
It is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which
almost went un-noticed last week.
Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote \"The Hokey Pokey\", died peacefully
at age 93.




The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the
coffin.
They put his left leg in. Then the trouble started.....

come on ya know you wanna laugh at it..... :D

rainmaker Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:22pm

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
and the ball may sit in the backcourt until time runs out; there is no backcourt count until team control is regained.

Now the question is, what if the refs shoes weren't shiney or they were wearing a belt? :)

I thought you were going to say that the question was whether team B was "in the path" of the team A player who tap-tap-tapped the ball.

Hey Juules, Carl says they published my article on the 8th. I never saw it, did you?

Yea, I saw it. Read it too! It's actually dated the 16th. I thought it was very good. Accurate, insightful and entertaining. Let's see, what else does Carl like? Oh, yea, and well-written. Anybody else care to comment?

Course, the picture evokes it's own (unspoken) thoughts...


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