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RookieDude Mon Sep 20, 2004 07:12pm

I have heard there will be another 3-person State Clinic here on the east side of the Cascades (required for State playoff assignments)...possibly held in October...any information on this?

zebraman Mon Sep 20, 2004 07:55pm

I'm not sure, but you can call Todd Stordahl at the WOA office to get the facts:

http://www.wiaa.com/woa/

Z

rockyroad Tue Sep 21, 2004 01:46pm

They have added a couple of one-day clinics, and I believe one of them is on the east side...I can try to get the dates and locations and post them for you...

rockyroad Tue Sep 21, 2004 02:35pm

Oops...guess they are not one-day camps...here are the dates and places...

Oct. 22-24 in Seattle
Oct. 29-31 in Spokane
Nov. 5-7 in Tacoma

Gotta be there Friday evening thru Sunday afternoon...I think it costs $100 or something like that...hope that helps RookieDude...

smoref Tue Sep 21, 2004 06:13pm

Z

Did you hear how the 3 person Meeting went that was held on Aug 3 by the WIAA?

I don't know anyone that attended and wanted to know what they talked about.

RookieDude Tue Sep 21, 2004 06:20pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Oops...guess they are not one-day camps...here are the dates and places...

Oct. 22-24 in Seattle
Oct. 29-31 in Spokane
Nov. 5-7 in Tacoma

Gotta be there Friday evening thru Sunday afternoon...I think it costs $100 or something like that...hope that helps RookieDude...

Thanks guys...I just received an e from an assignor over here with the dates confirming what is stated here.

We have to make a first, second and third choice to be quaranteed a spot from what I understand.

I will probably make Seattle my first choice...then Spokane even though Spokane is closer. Seattle works out better for my work schedule.
Anybody else here going to one of these clinics? If so, looking forward to meeting you.

zebraman Tue Sep 21, 2004 08:00pm

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Originally posted by smoref
Z

Did you hear how the 3 person Meeting went that was held on Aug 3 by the WIAA?

I don't know anyone that attended and wanted to know what they talked about.

Jim Shaw was the only one from our assoc that attended. Call or e-mail him. From what I understand, not much happened. The officials association still wants to make e-person move forward and the schools are still resisting. Officials like it, but aren't thrilled about the pay cut. Same ol', same ol'. Stalemate.

It's mandatory at state so we'll have a bunch of officials who do 2-person all year long and then try to make the switch at state. It won't be pretty when there are times in games with 2 leads at the state tournament. :-)

Z

Ron Pilo Wed Sep 22, 2004 09:10am

I was at a training clinic last night and the scuttlebutt for the west side is almost all leagues are balking at the idea.

I heard, the problem was the 3-person was communicated to them at the end of the summer and most were not ready to jump on the wagon.

I suspect that we will do more 2 then 3 this year and we will see 3 at league and district playoffs before heading to state.

I will be going to a state tourney somewhere this season....I think B in Spokane of 2A in Yakima.....two I haven't been to yet.

zebraman Wed Sep 22, 2004 09:56am

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ron Pilo [QUOTE]
I was at a training clinic last night and the scuttlebutt for the west side is almost all leagues are balking at the idea.

Yep.

I heard, the problem was the 3-person was communicated to them at the end of the summer and most were not ready to jump on the wagon.


Not true. Todd Stordahl has being working with them and communicating with them about this for years and almost non-stop since the end of last season. The schools are balking because they don't want to get hit with an officiating price increase after the 3-year trial period. They are satisfied with 2-person officiating and think it's a waste to pay for 3.

I suspect that we will do more 2 then 3 this year and we will see 3 at league and district playoffs before heading to state.

I have heard only 2-person at districts too. Just 3-person at state but I don't think that's hammered out yet.

I will be going to a state tourney somewhere this season....I think B in Spokane of 2A in Yakima.....two I haven't been to yet.

Good luck Ron. You should do well since you do 3-person for JC ball. The refs who do strictly high school ball have no chance at looking good in 3-person after doing 2-person all year. I expect another state championship from you. I just went two years in a row so I'll be sitting this year's state tournaments out.

Z

rockyroad Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:53pm

Interesting...the 2A, 3A, and 4A schools down here have all agreed to have 3-person crews for all JV and Varsity contests...we did some fooling around and end up saving the schools some money while making more for the evening for the three officials - of course, that means the crew does both JV and Varsity games that night...so our guys who go to State should be looking good !!

zebraman Wed Sep 22, 2004 02:25pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Interesting...the 2A, 3A, and 4A schools down here have all agreed to have 3-person crews for all JV and Varsity contests...we did some fooling around and end up saving the schools some money while making more for the evening for the three officials - of course, that means the crew does both JV and Varsity games that night...so our guys who go to State should be looking good !!
Yep, your guys will have a <B>huge</B> advantage over the areas of the state where 3-person isn't done in the regular season.

Z

Ron Pilo Wed Sep 22, 2004 04:00pm

I know it's pretty crazy for us....you would think that the largest metro area in the state would step and lead the way.......I hope someone somewhere makes a good decision to "make it so number one". I guess we will let Todd deal with it........




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