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John Choiniere Fri Dec 10, 1999 10:32am

After a dead ball, when a player takes the ball out of bound along the baseline, he cannot move side to side. I know this is a violation. Is he allowed to move backward, away from the endline? I seem to recall either reading that this was okay, or hearing it at a clinic?

mick Fri Dec 10, 1999 10:41am


John,
The inbounder can go as deep as is available but has to remain on the floor, ...or over the floor.
During a dead ball, after a free throw, he can run the baseline.
mick

Dave King Fri Dec 10, 1999 03:50pm

John,
During any designated spot throw-in, (as opposed to a throw-in after a made or awarded basket or free throw) the thrower has a 3-foot wide spot from which to throw. As noted by Mick he may go as far back as possible. He must keep one foot on or over the 3-foot wide area prior to releasing the ball. So, you MAY see some "side to side" movement that won't be whistled.
The thrower is not land-locked to where his feet are touching the floor...

dk

Todd (Mike) Mullen Fri Dec 10, 1999 06:52pm

Just a pet peeve:

Should the thrower move from the three foot wide spot, the correct mechanic for the violation is whistle/stc/point to the spot/direction.

Too often, officials use the travelling signal instead of pointing to the spot and this only serves to further confuse players, coaches, and fans who already do not understand most of the rules.

When they see an official signal travelling, they wrongly assume the thrower must maintain a pivot foot during the throw-in, which as we all know, isn't true.

Paul LeBoutillier Sat Dec 11, 1999 11:00am

[quote]Originally posted by Todd (Mike) Mullen on 12-10-1999 05:52 PM

<font color=red>Too often, officials use the travelling signal instead of pointing to the spot and this only serves to further confuse players, coaches, and fans who already do not understand most of the rules.</font>

Traveling signal?? Why would they signal traveling for a throw in violation?? I agree with you, Mike, that WOULD be confusing!

Mlancaster Sun Dec 12, 1999 01:34am

Traveling is the signal only in International ball.

Indianaref Thu Feb 18, 2010 03:36pm

[QUOTE=Paul LeBoutillier;892]
Quote:

Originally posted by Todd (Mike) Mullen on 12-10-1999 05:52 PM

<font color=red>Too often, officials use the travelling signal instead of pointing to the spot and this only serves to further confuse players, coaches, and fans who already do not understand most of the rules.</font>

Traveling signal?? Why would they signal traveling for a throw in violation?? I agree with you, Mike, that WOULD be confusing!
I've seen a lot of old timers use this travel signal, it is wrong, however, I don't think it's that confusing.

JugglingReferee Thu Feb 18, 2010 03:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 662889)
I've seen a lot of old timers use this travel signal, it is wrong, however, I don't think it's that confusing.

WoW! I've never seen an ten+ year thread dug up before.

Adam Thu Feb 18, 2010 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 662892)
WoW! I've never seen an ten+ year thread dug up before.

Might be a record. I nominate it for "resurrection of the day."

jdw3018 Thu Feb 18, 2010 03:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indianaref (Post 662889)

I've seen a lot of old timers use this travel signal, it is wrong, however, I don't think it's that confusing.

I'm mostly curious as to how you came across this thread...

However, I also disagree with you. The signal is confusing because it leads others to believe that the traveling rules are in place during a throw-in. Some coaches (and fans, and even some officials) then believe that when a player moves both feet, he should be whistled for a violation.

eg-italy Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mlancaster (Post 893)
Traveling is the signal only in International ball.

If you mean FIBA, then you are wrong: we don't use any traveling signal for leaving the throw-in spot.

Ciao

Adam Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by eg-italy (Post 662912)
If you mean FIBA, then you are wrong: we don't use any traveling signal for leaving the throw-in spot.

Ciao

But did you use it 11 years ago?

Welpe Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:37pm

Wow...I think I had just gotten my driver's license when this thread was created. :eek:

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 662916)
Wow...I think I had just gotten my driver's license when this thread was created. :eek:

I had just gone on Social Security. :o

Adam Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:49pm

I was anticipating the birth of our first child.

sseltser Thu Feb 18, 2010 04:55pm

I was 12 and liked to complain to officials at my 7th grade games .:eek:

dsqrddgd909 Thu Feb 18, 2010 05:12pm

I was just getting BACK into coaching and officiating was the furthest thing from my mind.

Mark Padgett Thu Feb 18, 2010 05:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by sseltser (Post 662925)
I was 12 and liked to complain to officials at my 7th grade games .:eek:

I remember tossing you a few times. :cool:

eg-italy Thu Feb 18, 2010 06:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 662914)
But did you use it 11 years ago?

Nope. Never. OTOH, it may be possible that in some countries this was used, but not in international games in Europe as far as I can remember.

Ciao

BillyMac Thu Feb 18, 2010 07:14pm

It Was Only Three Days ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 662895)
I nominate it for "resurrection of the day."

After all, it is Lent.

BillyMac Thu Feb 18, 2010 07:17pm

It Should Be Out Of My System By Now ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 662892)
I've never seen an ten+ year thread dug up before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 662895)
Might be a record. I nominate it for "resurrection of the day."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 662916)
I think I had just gotten my driver's license when this thread was created.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 662920)
I had just gone on Social Security.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 662921)
I was anticipating the birth of our first child.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sseltser (Post 662925)
I was 12 and liked to complain to officials at my 7th grade games.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 662926)
I was just getting back into coaching and officiating was the furthest thing from my mind.

When this thread was created, I had a beer. Am I allowed to officiate a game tonight?

Adam Thu Feb 18, 2010 09:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 662948)
When this thread was created, I had a beer. Am I allowed to officiate a game tonight?

I nominate this for funniest post of the day!

just another ref Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 662948)
When this thread was created, I had a beer. Am I allowed to officiate a game tonight?

I've worn out a couple of beer trucks since this thread was created.

Scuba_ref Fri Feb 19, 2010 01:07am

They had internet back then???

just another ref Fri Feb 19, 2010 01:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 662985)
They had internet back then???

Oh, yeah. 56k dial-up..........if you were lucky.

Beer was the same speed as it is now.

fullor30 Fri Feb 19, 2010 05:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 662985)
They had internet back then???

Not according to Al Gore

Adam Fri Feb 19, 2010 05:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 663184)
Not according to <strike>Al Gore</strike> Algore

He built that with his own bare hands when he was in the Senate. Show some respect.
And I fixed it for you. :D


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