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ChrisSportsFan Sun Aug 22, 2004 05:53pm

2 thoughts here:

#1-> Why can't the Americans make one? I believe if they were standing on the beach with the wind to their back, and no D, they couldn't throw the ball in the ocean.

#2-> While administering a FT, sometimes the lead gives the ball to the shooter and sometimes the trail. Is there a logic to this?

ChuckElias Sun Aug 22, 2004 08:17pm

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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
#2-> While administering a FT, sometimes the lead gives the ball to the shooter and sometimes the trail. Is there a logic to this?
First FT is administered by the Trail. Second FT is bounced from the Lead directly to the shooter.

ace Sun Aug 22, 2004 09:43pm

Do the olympics ever plan to enter the modern world of 3-person mechanics?

ref18 Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:06pm

I heard a few months ago that they were supposed to go 3-man this olympics, but appearantly they are gonna go to 3-man in 4 years at the next olympics.

A Dutch Ref Mon Aug 23, 2004 06:19am

At the first FT the ball is given by the trail, except when this is the final FT. From 1 September the new mechanics will be put to use, which means that at all FTs the ball will be given by the lead.

From 1 September all main FIBA matches (men only) will be refereed by three men.

ADR

Oz Referee Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:20pm

One of the reasons that FIBA did not go three-man for this Olympics, and an explanation for the overall poor performance of the referees is to do with a dispute between FIBA and the European basketball league. Basically since the European league is not a FIBA endorsed competition, their referees were not allowed to officiate - which is a real shame as they have some of the top referees in the world.

Jay R Tue Aug 24, 2004 07:50am

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Originally posted by Oz Referee
One of the reasons that FIBA did not go three-man for this Olympics, and an explanation for the overall poor performance of the referees is to do with a dispute between FIBA and the European basketball league. Basically since the European league is not a FIBA endorsed competition, their referees were not allowed to officiate - which is a real shame as they have some of the top referees in the world.
Someone mentionned the same point before. Does the Euro League use a three-man system?

A Dutch Ref Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:44am

Yep, at least in the ULEB-competition they do.

Bobby Wed Aug 25, 2004 03:50pm

FIBA is the only group still left with two-man officiating. ULEB, NBL (Australia), and the NBA all use three-man officiating.

The ban on ULEB officials has been in place since 2000 as part of the split.

Remember, ULEB has three major rule differences -- jump ball, block/charge, and time outs (can be called after final free throw is successful, and also in final two minutes of a game, ball may be advanced to the center line).

Costas Rigas, Euroleague head of officials: "With (the block/charge arc), we are encouraging all those attacking, spectacular players to penetrate to the basket without fear of getting a cheap foul from defensive players standing under basket. The semicircle gives the referee guidelines that say offensive charging will never be called if the defensive player is standing in that area."

According to the Euroleague's site, the rule is intended to clearly define contact situations under the basket. It will decrease the number of "flopping" and "no-call" situations which currently give rise to frustration and inconsistency. It will deter defensive players from seeking to draw a "cheap" offensive foul by standing under the basket and at the same time it will encourage offensive players to penetrate to the basket without fear, making the game more exciting.

Oz Referee Wed Aug 25, 2004 06:45pm

Block/Charge
 
Although the semi-circle doesn't exist in FIBA, many Australian referees have been instructed not to call a charge when the defence is standing directly under the basket. The justification for this is that any defensive player in this situation is not playing "good" defense and therefore there is no advantage/disadvantage arising from the contact.

Isaak Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:21pm

True, we get told not to call a charge ... but an offensive push is always available to you - especially if its ugly!


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