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zebraman Tue Jul 20, 2004 02:32pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by zebraman
I hate to by cynical guys, but an official being afraid to wipe up a wet spot on the floor because he/she is afraid of being liable is a cop-out. If you don't want to do it fine, but come on. You're no more liable if you do it then if someone else does it and you don't notice that they didn't do a good enough job.

If that's your worry, then you'd better not ever get a towel to wipe off the ball because if you don't get it all dry and the ball slips out of someone's hand and causes an injury you are liable. If someone trips over their shoelace and gets hurt you are liable because you did not immediately stop play when it became untied.

A little common sense please.
OK, I just don't wanna do it either. I'm with Dan.

<i>"You the home coach? There's water on the floor over there that you need to get wiped up. Give me a shout when you're done; I'll be over at the scorer's table getting a drink of water and checking out the gabonzas on the mother in the 4th row".</i>
Now <b><i> that </b></i> is court presence. :eek:

Z

brianp134 Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:01pm
Zebra, IAABO puts a magazine called Sportstorial and in a article by the Attorney from IAABO, It stated that officials could be held liable if something were to happen. It stated that cleaning up a wet spot on the floor was the responsibility of game management not officials. Now I know it is quicker to do it yourself and I have done it as have many others, but If a kid was to hurt himself/herself, you could be at fault, it you were playing janitor. So I am not trying to "cop-out" of anything. I was stating what has been passed down to me by IAABO. Does anyone else remember seeing this in the Sportstorial?

zebraman Thu Jul 22, 2004 01:16pm
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Originally posted by brianp134
Zebra, IAABO puts a magazine called Sportstorial and in a article by the Attorney from IAABO, It stated that officials could be held liable if something were to happen. It stated that cleaning up a wet spot on the floor was the responsibility of game management not officials. Now I know it is quicker to do it yourself and I have done it as have many others, but If a kid was to hurt himself/herself, you could be at fault, it you were playing janitor. So I am not trying to "cop-out" of anything. I was stating what has been passed down to me by IAABO. Does anyone else remember seeing this in the Sportstorial?
I will be interested to see exactly what the article says. "Officials could be held liable if something were to happen" is about the most vague statement I have ever heard.

Z

ChuckElias Thu Jul 22, 2004 04:48pm
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Originally posted by zebraman
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
<i>"You the home coach? There's water on the floor over there that you need to get wiped up. Give me a shout when you're done; I'll be over at the scorer's table getting a drink of water and checking out the gabonzas on the mother in the 4th row".</i>
Now <b><i> that </b></i> is court presence. :eek:
For the official, or for the mom?!?!

Dan_ref Thu Jul 22, 2004 07:25pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by zebraman
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
<i>"You the home coach? There's water on the floor over there that you need to get wiped up. Give me a shout when you're done; I'll be over at the scorer's table getting a drink of water and checking out the gabonzas on the mother in the 4th row".</i>
Now <b><i> that </b></i> is court presence. :eek:
For the official, or for the mom?!?!
For the dad maybe?

oatmealqueen Fri Jul 23, 2004 07:43pm
yuck..
 
I don't touch any bodily fluids on the floor with or without a towel.
But it wasn't always that way.

This happened when I first began officiating.
In a high school boys game, after some aggresive rebounding action in the key, and after a time out, I noticed a small wet area near the baseline.
I stuck my toe in it and tried to rub it out. Well, the more I scuffed my toe at the spot the bigger, and gooier, and stickier it got. What the he#@ was it? And why wouldn't it go away?
Later, the home coach informed me that half of his team had bad colds.
Never again!

rainmaker Sat Jul 24, 2004 01:07am
Re: yuck..
 
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen
I don't touch any bodily fluids on the floor with or without a towel.
But it wasn't always that way.

This happened when I first began officiating.
In a high school boys game, after some aggresive rebounding action in the key, and after a time out, I noticed a small wet area near the baseline.
I stuck my toe in it and tried to rub it out. Well, the more I scuffed my toe at the spot the bigger, and gooier, and stickier it got. What the he#@ was it? And why wouldn't it go away?
Later, the home coach informed me that half of his team had bad colds.
Never again!
So did you end up with a cold?!?

Jurassic Referee Sat Jul 24, 2004 01:48am
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen

I stuck my <font color = red>toe</font> in it and tried to rub it out.
So did you end up with a cold?!?

Nope. Toemaine poisoning!

She was lucky that it didn't develop into kneemonia.

At least she didn't have to worry about dicktheria.:eek:

rainmaker Sat Jul 24, 2004 02:07am
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen

I stuck my <font color = red>toe</font> in it and tried to rub it out.
So did you end up with a cold?!?

Nope. Toemaine poisoning!

She was lucky that it didn't develop into kneemonia.

At least she didn't have to worry about dicktheria.:eek:
Sheez, Woody. Get some sleep!

oatmealqueen Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:17pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by oatmealqueen

I stuck my <font color = red>toe</font> in it and tried to rub it out.
So did you end up with a cold?!?

Nope. Toemaine poisoning!

She was lucky that it didn't develop into kneemonia.

At least she didn't have to worry about dicktheria.:eek:


Actually,
toelio, and I didn't have to worry about smallcox either. ;)

TravelinMan Sat Jul 24, 2004 04:47pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by zebraman
I hate to by cynical guys, but an official being afraid to wipe up a wet spot on the floor because he/she is afraid of being liable is a cop-out. If you don't want to do it fine, but come on. You're no more liable if you do it then if someone else does it and you don't notice that they didn't do a good enough job.

If that's your worry, then you'd better not ever get a towel to wipe off the ball because if you don't get it all dry and the ball slips out of someone's hand and causes an injury you are liable. If someone trips over their shoelace and gets hurt you are liable because you did not immediately stop play when it became untied.

A little common sense please.
OK, I just don't wanna do it either. I'm with Dan.

<i>"You the home coach? There's water on the floor over there that you need to get wiped up. Give me a shout when you're done; I'll be over at the scorer's table getting a drink of water and checking out the gabonzas on the mother in the 4th row".</i>
Hey JR....the mother with the big gabonzas in the 4th row asked if you cold wipe the floor so her son doesn't get hurt....she'd be forever indebted...

Dan_ref Sat Jul 24, 2004 05:52pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by oatmealqueen
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by oatmealqueen

I stuck my <font color = red>toe</font> in it and tried to rub it out.
So did you end up with a cold?!?

Nope. Toemaine poisoning!

She was lucky that it didn't develop into kneemonia.

At least she didn't have to worry about dicktheria.:eek:


Actually,
toelio, and I didn't have to worry about smallcox either. ;)
hmmm...

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Chin Ref Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:34am
It happened to me one time someone took my towel at the scorers table to wipe the floor while I was at the far side. I was so upset about that guy


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