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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:25pm
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I'm working a tournament this weekend that's mostly NCAA women's rules, which I'm not real familiar with. The most important clarification I need right now is what the lane line-up is supposed to be. My partner claims to work D2 but I think (and four coaches agree with me for whatever that's worth) he's got the lane line up wrong. He says it should be four defense, two offense. I thought NCAA was three defense, two offense. Are NAIA rules different from NCAA, especially regarding lane line-up? Would that be why my partner is confused?

Also does what are the coaching and coaching box differences in NCAA compared to FED?

Thirdly, how do I estimate 3-feet for closely guarded? Is it going to be further than I expect, as 6 feet was further than I expected?
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:36pm
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While we're at it, could someone give me a link to the NCAA rules page? I tried to hunt it down on my own, but my Luddite genetics kicked in bigtime.
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:38pm
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Here it goes.

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I'm working a tournament this weekend that's mostly NCAA women's rules, which I'm not real familiar with. The most important clarification I need right now is what the lane line-up is supposed to be. My partner claims to work D2 but I think (and four coaches agree with me for whatever that's worth) he's got the lane line up wrong. He says it should be four defense, two offense. I thought NCAA was three defense, two offense. Are NAIA rules different from NCAA, especially regarding lane line-up? Would that be why my partner is confused?
Exactly the same lineup as in the NF, but they do not use the lower block or the blocks closer to the basket. Your partner was correct.

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Also does what are the coaching and coaching box differences in NCAA compared to FED?
The NCAA has the entire sideline up until the 28 foot mark. Not sure that will be a major issue in the game you will be officiating, but that is the rule.

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Thirdly, how do I estimate 3-feet for closely guarded? Is it going to be further than I expect, as 6 feet was further than I expected?
Judgment. Use the same markers on the court. Just cut that in half. It is really not that much of an issue anyway in NCAA Women's Rules. The only time you can have a closely guarded situation is when the ball handler is holding the ball. And remember you can have closely guarded in the backcourt as well.

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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:43pm
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While we're at it, could someone give me a link to the NCAA rules page? I tried to hunt it down on my own, but my Luddite genetics kicked in bigtime.

NCAA Rules

Hope this helps. You can download the rules to your Adobe Reader files and go thru all the rules without the paper version.

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Re: Here it goes.

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I'm working a tournament this weekend that's mostly NCAA women's rules, which I'm not real familiar with. The most important clarification I need right now is what the lane line-up is supposed to be. My partner claims to work D2 but I think (and four coaches agree with me for whatever that's worth) he's got the lane line up wrong. He says it should be four defense, two offense. I thought NCAA was three defense, two offense. Are NAIA rules different from NCAA, especially regarding lane line-up? Would that be why my partner is confused?
Exactly the same lineup as in the NF, but they do not use the lower block or the blocks closer to the basket. Your partner was correct.
So, is that a recent change? I'm distinctly remembering a 3-and-2 line-up from watching on TV.
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:45pm
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Thanks for all the help, Jeff. I really appreciate it. Especially so fast!

Oh, and by the way, just so no one feels uncomfortable with the honest expression of positive emotions, your mother is a hamster and your father stinks of elderberries!
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 07:54pm
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Thanks for all the help, Jeff. I really appreciate it. Especially so fast!

Oh, and by the way, just so no one feels uncomfortable with the honest expression of positive emotions, your mother is a hamster and your father stinks of elderberries!
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Re: Re: Here it goes.

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So, is that a recent change? I'm distinctly remembering a 3-and-2 line-up from watching on TV.
The 3-and-2 line-up is from the NBA. Can't speak for the WNBA.

The other major difference in the coaching box rules, Juulie, is that the head coach does not lose the coaching box privileges, even if assessed a direct technical foul. There's no seat belt rule in NCAA.
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Thanks for all the help, Jeff. I really appreciate it. Especially so fast!

Oh, and by the way, just so no one feels uncomfortable with the honest expression of positive emotions, your mother is a hamster and your father stinks of elderberries!
I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal, food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction.

BTW, before I get accused of making off topic posts, this will be the preferred warning for coaches in the 2004/2005 season.
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 08:28pm
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I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal, food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction.

BTW, before I get accused of making off topic posts, this will be the preferred warning for coaches in the 2004/2005 season.
And, kids, don't try this at home!
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Old Thu Jul 08, 2004, 08:30pm
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Re: Re: Re: Here it goes.

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So, is that a recent change? I'm distinctly remembering a 3-and-2 line-up from watching on TV.
The 3-and-2 line-up is from the NBA. Can't speak for the WNBA.
Well, I know I've seen it, but that doesn't have to mean that it's required. COuld have been just that someone didn't want into that top spot. Hmmmm...

It's 45 and raining in U.P. and a ref is quoting something seen on TV as gospel so....

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Hey Juulie - guess what the free throw lineup is in the ABA?
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Old Fri Jul 09, 2004, 12:05am
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Hey Juulie - guess what the free throw lineup is in the ABA?
I give up.
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Old Fri Jul 09, 2004, 03:31am
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Thirdly, how do I estimate 3-feet for closely guarded? Is it going to be further than I expect, as 6 feet was further than I expected?
Three feet = about 1/2 of player's height, so if offense is within a little more than arm's reach of defender, they are within three feet.
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Re: Re: Here it goes.

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So, is that a recent change? I'm distinctly remembering a 3-and-2 line-up from watching on TV. [/B]
It's been 4 and 2 since they went to the above-the-block lineup, which I think was two years ago.

Small point: a defensive player is not allowed to slide down if the second spot is not occupied by an offensive player.
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