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Old Fri Jan 12, 2001, 02:41pm
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My first post on this site related to BC violations. Although I learned enough there and on subsequent discussions to get most of the quiz right, there are always those special cases. I think that what I know, and what most people on this board could easily get right, cover 95%+ of all BC calls, but we can always learn more. I also find that dealing with the special situations helps me with the basics of the rule, because the special situations usually derive directly from the basics and illustrate their intent.

I do wonder about the reasoning on the distinction between fumble catch and fumble dribble. I am not questioning BktBallRef's case, which no doubt exists, but merely the reasoning behind it. If the ball is lobbed and bounces front court before a player straddling the line catches it, it is a BC because it achieved FC status. A fumble represents a loss of player control and should be considered to immediately have achieved FC status if it is fumbled so that it bounces FC. Shouldn't matter if the subsequent action that establishes player control is a fumble or a dribble. IMO, the special fumble-dribble case seems not to be in line with the basics of the rule, but rather a device to save the ref from having to make the judgment call as to whether a player had a sloppy start to a dribble or a fumble.

BktBallRef - how do you think you would apply this case if the ball was tipped by one hand, lands FC, then a line- straddling player dribbles it? Is that a fumble, or is the ball already FC and as soon as the dribble commences it is BC?
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