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ref18 Thu May 06, 2004 09:04pm

We just had our AGM tongiht, and starting in september, my board will wear the black and white stripes.

I'm so happy!!!

Now i just gotta spend $90 on new shirts ;)

rainmaker Thu May 06, 2004 10:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
We just had our AGM tongiht, and starting in september, my board will wear the black and white stripes.

I'm so happy!!!

Now i just gotta spend $90 on new shirts ;)

What were you wearing before?!?

By the way, I recommend the InterraWear. Very, very comfortable. But be sure you use borax when you launder them. Otherwise, they develop an unpleasant smell.

ref18 Fri May 07, 2004 02:32pm

we've been wearing solid grey shirts with black trim up to now.

http://www.worldofsports.ca/bb_ref_shirt.jpg

mick Fri May 07, 2004 02:56pm

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Originally posted by ref18
we've been wearing solid grey shirts with black trim up to now.

http://www.worldofsports.ca/bb_ref_shirt.jpg

ref18,
Your present shirts look like an up-grade to me.
Methinks requiring striped shirts is a step backward.
Dunno.
mick

Ref Ump Welsch Fri May 07, 2004 05:43pm

Just brace yourself. There's variation on that shirt that has black pinstripes. The JUCO officals I've seen around here are wearing them. Someone made the comment once during the season that there is a small probability of going to those grey with black pinstripes in the next few years.

rainmaker Fri May 07, 2004 05:44pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
we've been wearing solid grey shirts with black trim up to now.

http://www.worldofsports.ca/bb_ref_shirt.jpg

And where is that?

Snake~eyes Fri May 07, 2004 05:49pm

I think we should stay with black and white but I guess I'm old fashion. I like being a zebra. What are you called in that shirt? Elephant? Hippo?

blindzebra Fri May 07, 2004 05:55pm

Varsity officials in Arizona have been wearing the grey shirts for years, and they stink.

You can take them out of the dryer, put them on a hanger and they are still a wrinkled mess come game time. They show sweat REALLY bad, and God forbid you drip some water on them at halftime, I've had to change shirts several times.

We are going back to black and white this year.

ref18 Fri May 07, 2004 06:42pm

Up here in Canada, everyone is slowly going away from the greys.

The main problem is that with different manufacturers the shade of grey varies.

I've got 3 different coloured grey shirts in my closet. Can you imagine what a 3-man crew would look like if everyone had a different shirt on??

The same with the new pinstripes.

If everyone buys from one source its ok, but when you get multiple companies producing the shirt, you're gonna get variance.

There's only 1 black and 1 white, but there are many different greys.

blindzebra Fri May 07, 2004 06:51pm

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Originally posted by ref18
Up here in Canada, everyone is slowly going away from the greys.

The main problem is that with different manufacturers the shade of grey varies.

I've got 3 different coloured grey shirts in my closet. Can you imagine what a 3-man crew would look like if everyone had a different shirt on??

The same with the new pinstripes.

If everyone buys from one source its ok, but when you get multiple companies producing the shirt, you're gonna get variance.

There's only 1 black and 1 white, but there are many different greys.

True, about the greys they vary even from the SAME manufacturer, I've got one that is a lttle purple, one is a little green.

The micro-mesh B&W will vary too, they don't have a true black.

ref18 Fri May 07, 2004 09:21pm

I'm not sure whether or not to go with the poly shirt or the new soft micro-mesh that the officials choice came out with.

Anyone have any suggestions??

Jay R Fri May 07, 2004 09:31pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
I'm not sure whether or not to go with the poly shirt or the new soft micro-mesh that the officials choice came out with.

Anyone have any suggestions??

I have one of each.

In New Brunswick, we switched from grey to black and white three years ago. I prefer stripes.

tomegun Sat May 08, 2004 06:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
I'm not sure whether or not to go with the poly shirt or the new soft micro-mesh that the officials choice came out with.

Anyone have any suggestions??

I have a suggestion, buy from someone besides Officials Choice. IMO, they have the worse customer service in the industry. Try Honigs or GetOfficial. Why should I have to twist someone's arm to give them business?

Nevadaref Sat May 08, 2004 06:37am

All of this shirt talk makes me think of soccer officiating. My opinion is that ONE shirt is the way to go.
In soccer there are currently four different colors the officials need to bring to a match (gold, red, black, and blue). Additionally, the shirts come in both long sleeve and short sleeve. That is eight shirts right there! At $50 a pop it adds up.
Throw in NCAA shirts, which are different and you have a closet full of them. Bringing it all to a game is a pain. I sincerely hope basketball stays with only one.
I would even like to see the NBA go B&W.

ref18 Sat May 08, 2004 01:51pm

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Originally posted by tomegun


I have a suggestion, buy from someone besides Officials Choice. IMO, they have the worse customer service in the industry. Try Honigs or GetOfficial. Why should I have to twist someone's arm to give them business?

I've dealt with them before, and had no problems whatsoever.

Also, I want to get the shirts with the IAABO patch already on them. I don't want to spend $90 for 3 shirts, and an additional $40 for the patches.

Chin Ref Sat May 08, 2004 08:20pm

I just think its OK to switch uniform every few years as we, the players, the coaches & the fans will feel not so bored about us. Of course, professional look should come first.

rainmaker Sat May 08, 2004 10:33pm

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Originally posted by Chin Ref
... as we, the players, the coaches & the fans will feel not so bored about us...
Boredom is not a big problem around here, chin, although we've been wearing the same type of shirt for 50 years or more. Maybe it's time for you to move up to the next level of play!

ref18 Sat May 08, 2004 10:37pm

the game can be played without coaches
the game can be played without officials
the game cannot be played without players,

I don't think the parents usually think about what the refs are wearing.

Although, i was watching some of the european professional on that NBA channel. The refs were wearing RED shirts, like those a soccer official would wear. I couldn't believe it, they looked so awful, and their 3-man mechanics were a bit off, they had 2 centres instead of 1 centre and a trail, but that's another topic.

blindzebra Sun May 09, 2004 02:00am

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
the game can be played without coaches
the game can be played without officials
the game cannot be played without players,

I don't think the parents usually think about what the refs are wearing.

Although, i was watching some of the european professional on that NBA channel. The refs were wearing RED shirts, like those a soccer official would wear. I couldn't believe it, they looked so awful, and their 3-man mechanics were a bit off, they had 2 centres instead of 1 centre and a trail, but that's another topic.

I get called "blue" all the time by players, fans and coaches so who knows what they are thinking!

Chin Ref Sun May 09, 2004 03:24am

Boredom is not a big problem around here, chin, although we've been wearing the same type of shirt for 50 years or more. Maybe it's time for you to move up to the next level of play! [/B][/QUOTE]

I always want to move up no matter how good I think I am. That's why I want to come to one of camps in summer, if I can afford it. Any suggestion, Julie

Bobby Sun May 09, 2004 06:40am

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
the game can be played without coaches
the game can be played without officials
the game cannot be played without players,

I don't think the parents usually think about what the refs are wearing.

Although, i was watching some of the european professional on that NBA channel. The refs were wearing RED shirts, like those a soccer official would wear. I couldn't believe it, they looked so awful, and their 3-man mechanics were a bit off, they had 2 centres instead of 1 centre and a trail, but that's another topic.

Actually the Union of European Basketball Leagues has a deal with Sara Lee (Champion) for their uniforms and the officials have two color combinations and the shirt rules are similar to soccer -- the scheme which does not look too similar to one team's jersey will be the one worn. If one team's jersey is blue, then the officials wear red. If one team's jersey is red, the officials wear blue. ULEB is also pondering working with the NBA on more officials training and many believe the ULEB prefers to work with the NBA instead of FIBA, which has shorn the ULEB referees, and the ULEB struck back by adopting the NBA's jump ball rule instead of the NCAA rules used by FIBA. (Hank Nichols is on the FIBA rules panel.)

I wouldn't be surprised to see the NBA help the ULEB in training officials.

I also have been talking with some officials for next year's youth leagues and one proposal is to officially go gray because of the studies between traditional stripes and the NBA/FIBA gray.

rgaudreau Sun May 09, 2004 08:55am

Up in Northern ONtario, we started the transition to stripes this year, by wearing them for Championship games and in tournaments.

Next year, we're all going with stripes.

I think it looks good.

REn

rainmaker Sun May 09, 2004 08:56am

Quote:

Originally posted by Chin Ref
Boredom is not a big problem around here, chin, although we've been wearing the same type of shirt for 50 years or more. Maybe it's time for you to move up to the next level of play!
I always want to move up no matter how good I think I am. That's why I want to come to one of camps in summer, if I can afford it. Any suggestion, Julie [/B][/QUOTE]

Camp where? Where are you now? What level do you work now? How many years experience? What rules do you want to learn under?

lrpalmer3 Fri May 14, 2004 09:26am

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Originally posted by blindzebra
Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
the game can be played without coaches
the game can be played without officials
the game cannot be played without players,

I don't think the parents usually think about what the refs are wearing.

Although, i was watching some of the european professional on that NBA channel. The refs were wearing RED shirts, like those a soccer official would wear. I couldn't believe it, they looked so awful, and their 3-man mechanics were a bit off, they had 2 centres instead of 1 centre and a trail, but that's another topic.

I get called "blue" all the time by players, fans and coaches so who knows what they are thinking!

I've mistakenly called basketball refs "blue" before. It's a baseball thing.

TPS2859 Fri May 14, 2004 10:13am

Last year I started wearing the black "body armour" under my strips and it feels great.


ref18 Sat May 15, 2004 08:34pm

That body armour stuff is expensive, i think it costs about the same as the striped shirt.

I think i'm just gonna get the McDavid Shirts.

ace Sun May 16, 2004 01:57am

Ref18 UnderArmor and McDavid or about the same price and almost the same product. I've worn both back when I was playing football and my underarmors were more resistant to tears than were the McDavid. Both are fine products. I havnt used McDavid for basketball so I couldnt tell ya. I can get my under-armors pretty cheap.

rainmaker Sun May 16, 2004 07:39am

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Originally posted by ace
.... my underarmors were more resistant to tears than were the McDavid.
Is that teers as in crying? Or tares as in ripping? I wouldn't think ripping would be an issue in basketball. crying would depend on the level of play.

Jurassic Referee Sun May 16, 2004 07:57am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by ace
.... my underarmors were more resistant to tears than were the McDavid.
Is that teers as in crying? Or tares as in ripping? I wouldn't think ripping would be an issue in basketball. crying would depend on the level of play.

Oh,deer!

ref18 Sun May 16, 2004 03:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
That body armour stuff is expensive, i think it costs about the same as the striped shirt.

I think i'm just gonna get the McDavid Shirts.

I was referring to the striped shirts made of the Intera fabric. I don't think under armour makes striped shirts, how ever the compression shorts that i have are made by under armour, and i am very pleased with their performance. They were just a bit expensive.

ace Sun May 16, 2004 11:12pm

Ah Intra fabric- GO FOR IT! It looks great and it cools great. I have two for "high school nights" when i'm working high school games... give a little bit better look than the micromesh (atleats on me) but it cools. I wear an underarmor even under that. But yes. The Intra fabric shirts are worth the cost. Look of polyester with the great comfort of micromesh.

footlocker Mon May 17, 2004 09:46am

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Can you imagine what a 3-man crew would look like if everyone had a different shirt on??
I would hope that a 3-person crew would be wearing different shirts.;)

mick Mon May 17, 2004 10:02am

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Originally posted by footlocker
Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Can you imagine what a 3-man crew would look like if everyone had a different shirt on??
I would hope that a 3-person crew would be wearing different shirts.;)

Aaaargh!
Yer Bad.

TPS2859 Mon May 17, 2004 03:24pm

Better to wear different shirts than the same "pants".

TPS2859 Mon May 17, 2004 03:25pm

Unless your partner/s are of the other sex!


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