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Saw this story on SportsCenter over the weekend. Jim Wolf is a MLB umpire. I think he's a rookie as a full-time ref. Problem is, his brother is Randy Wolf, who pitches for the Philadelphia Phillies. Jim actually works Philly's games, and the only restriction is that he can't work the plate when Randy pitches.
Anybody think this is a problem? I thought it was extemely interesting. Here's a link to the ESPN story: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1596708 |
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He is not going to work the plate. This is not going to happen very often, but when it does he will only work the bases. Which means you really have very little control over the actual game. You might be lucky depending on the where you work, hardly make any calls. Peace |
I wouldn't work a game at all if my brother was on the team - whether he's starting pitcher or eternal benchwarmer.
(Okay, okay - so I've done Little League games involving my brothers' teams - but it's Little League.) While he may not be calling the balls and strikes, I'd be kinda worried on any sort of balk call - or if all of the umps have to confer on a play . . . doesn't look too good. |
He should not be allowed to do Philly games at any position.
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What a stupid article. A waste of my time. First off the date on it is Aug. 15, 2003. Just a wee bit old. I can sum it up for everyone else. Wolf called a guy on the Phillies safe at first, but tv replays showed he was out. So right away people assume that he is trying to help out the Phillies because his brother is on the team. Come on. Plays are missed every day in the National League and you don't hear about upmires throwing the game. They are just making something out of nothing.
Ohh and by the way I don't think he should do Phillies games. |
I saw a story on this last year on ESPN. I thought it was intriguing. If the league doesn't have a problem with him doing games involving his brother then no one else should either. The league reviews films and grades all of their umpires anyway, if there is a problem they will take care of it.
Do you really think this guy is going to risk losing his job over a call in some meaningless regular season game that won't change how much his brother makes by one cent? |
First of all, I apologize that the article is so old. I honestly didn't see the posting date. I found it very recently the ESPN site after hearing about the story only this past weekend. I'm sorry if the article was a waste of time.
Having said that, I think it's interesting that he's not allowed to work the plate, but only when his brother is pitching. As Rut said, he won't have much influence on the game when his brother is pitching, but if it's the last day of the season, and first place in the division is on the line, he can still work the plate for his brother's team as long as the brother isn't pitching. This could put him in a position to have a huge influence on this pennant-deciding game. Quote:
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I predict the league will revisit this situation and reverse themselves. Any takers?
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What happens if they bring his brother in for relief when he's working the plate?
Frankly, this is all about perception and not about reality. Reality is that there's practically zero chance that he'd change a call to help his brother. The perception, however, is what would actually harm MLB. Sometimes, the mere appearance of a conflict of interest is enough to throw a wrench into public relations. |
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That's amazingly insightful! I should've thought to use that as the title of the thread. Oh, wait. . . :) Quote:
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So if MLB decides he can't do his brother's games where do they draw the line? What umpire X has been in the league for 10 years. And then a nephew of his makes it to the National League. Can you umpire you nephew's game? What if it was your cousin's? Or you childhood friend? Someday this will come up, so we might as well think about it now.
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LDUB,
They've already drawn an arbitrary line in deciding he can't work the plate if his brother is pitching. I would say they need to take it a step further and say he can't work games for his brother. As for how far they take this? Case by case. In general, I'd say that immediate family should be far enough. Father/son, brothers, etc. Uncle/Nephew? Hard to say without knowing the two involved, but I'd be inclined to let it pass. |
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The difference is you've got to stop somewhere. If an ump would change a call for his brother, he'd change a call for a graduate of his college, or high school, or whatever. Like I said, it would have to be case by case, and I'd understand if they said an uncle/nephew relationship was too close. Uncle/nephew is marginal, I think brothers are too close.
As I said, I don't think the ump would actually change a call, there's too much scrutiny to do it. However, the average fan doesn't know that, and would see the conflict and overly scrutinize the calls. |
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I think either MLB should say either he works none of his brother's games, or he is able to work every position (behind the plate) for his games. If you can't trust him at the plate, how can you trust him in the field? |
"Conflict."
Does anyone realize how hard it is to change any call? Especially in baseball?
It is really hard to do that, for one at least in baseball, plays happen and you just happen to be there. You do not tell the runner to round second and try for that extra base and you automatically make a call before the play gets there. Any umpire with any integrity could not even try to "cheat." This is not basketball where in individual official might have 15-20 calls a game potentially. In baseball with 4 umpires, they might be lucky if they have one call the entire game. And if he is on 3rd base, chances are he will be very possible that he will not have any close plays. I do not see any problem with this, mainly because there is not much an umpire not behind the plate can influence. Baseball most of the time calls itself. Peace |
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I don't think I am that automatic at all. Espicially calling pitches. After the catcher catches the pitch, I pause and the call strike or ball. The small pause lets me think about the pitch and make the right call.
Everyone says that no umpire could intentionally make the wrong call. Then why will they not let him work the plate for his brother's games? I say he is either working the plate for the games, or he is not allowed to do them at all. |
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Coach, you are right. My point is not that an official or umpire would actually change a call. Only that most people are not aware of the difficulties involved. Should there be a close call that benefits the family member (especially if slow motion replays show it to be wrong), many fans will question the integrity of that official. It's not fair to the official to put him in that position.
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And this would be a change because of.........
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As a loan processor at a major mortgage company, I am not allowed to actually sell real estate (a potential part time job) because of the potential for appearances. There is no way I could actually affect anything due to effective checks and balances, but the distance must be maintained to prevent problems from occurring from a potential conflict of interest. We are also not allowed to process loans of friends and family. I see this as similar. |
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MLB for once is doing the right thing. Peace |
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