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Dan_ref Wed Apr 14, 2004 07:06pm

...watching a little league game.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4556244/

Mark Dexter Wed Apr 14, 2004 07:16pm

  • Reward your child whether the team wins or loses.
  • If you have a complaint or concern, don't raise it in the middle of a game.
  • Applaud when either team makes a good play.
  • Praise effort.
  • Respect the referee’s calls.
  • Talk to your neighbor during games (don't get too caught up in scores or statistics).
  • Ask your child, ‘Was it fun?’ before ‘Did you win?’

Heck - doing any 2 or 3 of these will make kids everywhere much more likely to participate in sports. When are parents going to get a clue?

PGCougar Thu Apr 15, 2004 08:34am

Great reading. Thanks!

mick Thu Apr 15, 2004 08:42am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
  • Reward your child whether the team wins or loses.
  • If you have a complaint or concern, don't raise it in the middle of a game.
  • Applaud when either team makes a good play.
  • Praise effort.
  • Respect the referee’s calls.
  • Talk to your neighbor during games (don't get too caught up in scores or statistics).
  • Ask your child, ‘Was it fun?’ before ‘Did you win?’

Heck - doing any 2 or 3 of these will make kids everywhere much more likely to participate in sports. When are parents going to get a clue?

When I used to be a parent: [*]<s>Reward your child whether the team wins or loses.</s>[*]If you have a complaint or concern, don't raise it in the middle of a game.[*]Applaud when either team makes a good play. [*]Praise effort. [*]<s>Respect the referee’s calls.</s>[*]Talk to your neighbor during games (don't get too caught up in scores or statistics).[*]<s>Ask your child, ‘Was it fun?’ before ‘Did you win?’</s>[/list]

PGCougar Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:26am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
When I used to be a parent:
Used to be? :eek:

Dang! You mean you don't have to be a parent forever? Shoot, those older kids of mine are gonna be in for a rude awakening tonight. Thanks mick. :D

Mark Dexter Thu Apr 15, 2004 03:04pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick

When I used to be a parent: [*]<s>Reward your child whether the team wins or loses.</s>[*]If you have a complaint or concern, don't raise it in the middle of a game.[*]Applaud when either team makes a good play. [*]Praise effort. [*]<s>Respect the referee’s calls.</s>[*]Talk to your neighbor during games (don't get too caught up in scores or statistics).[*]<s>Ask your child, ‘Was it fun?’ before ‘Did you win?’</s>[/list]

Sadly, it's hard to see even one of these displayed at a rec game nowadays.

rainmaker Thu Apr 15, 2004 04:17pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
  • Ask your child, ‘Was it fun?’ before ‘Did you win?’

I wouldn't even mind, "You were trying to make ten good rebounds. Did you?" I think for a parent to push a kid a little to improve and to work hard at something is okay. It's just that when winning is everything, there's a problem. I feel the same way when a team is winning by 25 or so and the crowd doesn't want the second string put in, or they boo when the second stringers make some mistakes.

mick Thu Apr 15, 2004 04:34pm

In my opinion: Winning is underrated.

wizard Fri Apr 16, 2004 07:49am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
In my opinion: Winning is underrated.
Please expound...

mick Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:03am

Quote:

Originally posted by wizard
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
In my opinion: Winning is underrated.
Please expound...

wizard,
Though, in polite circles, there is much to be said about having fun, participating, good sportsmanship, teamwork, manners, sacrifice, and fitness, with respect to athletics, once any/some/all of these characteristics is coupled with winning the pleasure of sport is exponentially greater.

Winning is very, very good; losing is not.

mick

ChuckElias Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by wizard
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
In my opinion: Winning is underrated.
Please expound...

Ok, um, "winning" is sort of the process of accumulating more points than your opponent in some sort of contest. In basketball, points are awarded (most often) for putting the ball through a metal ring. Whichever team is awarded the most points by the end of the normal playing time is declared the "winner".

This is, of course, slightly different in golf, where the players are trying to accumulate fewer points (strokes) than their opponents. That is, of course, unless they're using the Stableford scoring system.

Something is "underrated" when most people do not recognize its true value. For example, a cold Diet Coke after a game is underrated by Dan. He thinks beer is better, if you can believe that.

I don't even want to get into what the definition of "is" is.

Does that help? :)

wizard Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:15am

No, smart#ss.



[Edited by wizard on Apr 16th, 2004 at 09:17 AM]

ChuckElias Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:18am

:D Just trying to be of service!

wizard Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by wizard
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
In my opinion: Winning is underrated.
Please expound...

wizard,
Though, in polite circles, there is much to be said about having fun, participating, good sportsmanship, teamwork, manners, sacrifice, and fitness, with respect to athletics, once any/some/all of these characteristics is coupled with winning the pleasure of sport is exponentially greater.

Winning is very, very good; losing is not.

mick

I totally agree. That's the goal. That's the balnce that is needed.

But when winning overshadows individual development (which is what happens in most cases), that's when there's a problem. Kids develop at different rates. The worst kid on the team in 4th grade could end up making the high school team. Most coaches live for today and don't worry about preparing the players for "real" games.

Jurassic Referee Fri Apr 16, 2004 08:48am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
[/B]
Ok, um, "winning" is sort of the process of accumulating more points than your opponent in some sort of contest. In basketball, points are awarded (most often) for putting the ball through a metal ring. Whichever team is awarded the most points by the end of the normal playing time is declared the "winner".

This is, of course, slightly different in golf, where the players are trying to accumulate fewer points (strokes) than their opponents. That is, of course, unless they're using the Stableford scoring system.

[/B][/QUOTE]Does anyone else find it, uh well, ironic that a BoSox fan is trying to explain "winning"? Seems to me that that's kinda like an anteater trying to explain quantum physics.


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