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WinterWillie Wed Apr 07, 2004 02:23am

There is only one thing left to say:

<Center><big><big><big><big><big><big><font><B></b></big></font>2CONN

dblref Wed Apr 07, 2004 06:00am

Being a Duke & Tenn fan (for many, many years), it pains me to say it but, Congratulations to UConn. There, I said it. Now I have to go wash my mouth out.

w_sohl Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:24am

sorry to rain on your parade, but UCOnn is not the first school to win both mens and womens titles in the same year. It has been done twice before, once on the same night.

Congrats to UConn, I was looking forward to a final four of Minn., PSU, Purdue and Tenn. though.

BktBallRef Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:37am

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Originally posted by w_sohl
sorry to rain on your parade, but UCOnn is not the first school to win both mens and womens titles in the same year. It has been done twice before, once on the same night.
Please tell us what school has won D1 basketball national championships in the same year. Because when he says "the first school to win both mens and womens titles" he's speaking of D1 "titles."

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:43am

UConn is the first D1 school to win both the men's and women's basketball championship in the same season. It might have happened at a lower level, but this is a first for D1.

w_sohl Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:54am

Never said they were D1, one was D2 ('99 I think) and the one that won both on the same night was D2 NAIA ('00 I think). Yes, they are the first D1, but not the first. 'Course, anything below D1 really doesn't matter to much anyway.

Rich Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:05am

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Originally posted by w_sohl
Never said they were D1, one was D2 ('99 I think) and the one that won both on the same night was D2 NAIA ('00 I think). Yes, they are the first D1, but not the first. 'Course, anything below D1 really doesn't matter to much anyway.
Admit it -- you were laying a trap otherwise you would've been more specific.

In 1984 Central Missouri State won both titles for NCAA Division II.

In 2001 Northwestern (IA) won both titles in NAIA Division II.

In 2004 Connecticut won both titles in NCAA Division I.

--Rich

w_sohl Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:10am

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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
Quote:

Originally posted by w_sohl
Never said they were D1, one was D2 ('99 I think) and the one that won both on the same night was D2 NAIA ('00 I think). Yes, they are the first D1, but not the first. 'Course, anything below D1 really doesn't matter to much anyway.
Admit it -- you were laying a trap otherwise you would've been more specific.

--Rich

I cannot tell a lie...

ChuckElias Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:46am

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Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

In 1984 Central Missouri State won both titles for NCAA Division II.

In 2001 Northwestern (IA) won both titles in NAIA Division II.

In 2004 Connecticut won both titles in NCAA Division I.

--Rich

Hmmmm, I guess somebody besides me saw the "Did You Know" segment on SportsCenter this morning. . . :)

Rich Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:57am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

In 1984 Central Missouri State won both titles for NCAA Division II.

In 2001 Northwestern (IA) won both titles in NAIA Division II.

In 2004 Connecticut won both titles in NCAA Division I.

--Rich

Hmmmm, I guess somebody besides me saw the "Did You Know" segment on SportsCenter this morning. . . :)

Actually, I didn't. I did a bit of quick research on the hickoksports.com website and the NAIA website and came up with the above.

D-I and D-II/III are worlds apart, though. And I don't mean that in a bad way.

Hawks Coach Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:08pm

Winning a national championship is a big thing at any level in college. The double appears to be just as rare at all levels, so I am not sure that the distinction of level matters that much.

Also, does anybody know if this first includes the old AIAW era? Some of the problem with women's records is that the NCAA didn't sponsor a women's basketball program until the 1970s, so you couldn't have an NCAA double. I hope that at some point they include the AIAW champs in the list of recognized NCAA champs, but that is asking a lot of the NCAA.

Oh yeah, and congrats to U-Conn and Taurasi, although I was pulling for Tennessee just to make the rivalry more interesting. U-Conn is becoming the UCLA of women's ball.

rulesmaven Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:22pm

I think Connecticut may also have been the only D1 team previously to hold a men's and women's title at the same time. The men won the championship in late March 1999, and I believe the women won the championship in early April 2000, just before the men's 2000 championship game was played. I remember something about it on sports center, which I think said it was the only time both were holders of the trophy at the same time in D1, or at least there was something special about it worthy of a "Did You Know."

Hawks Coach Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:28pm

Another cute ESPN irrelevancy :)

BktBallRef Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:42pm

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Originally posted by rulesmaven
I think Connecticut may also have been the only D1 team previously to hold a men's and women's title at the same time. The men won the championship in late March 1999, and I believe the women won the championship in early April 2000, just before the men's 2000 championship game was played. I remember something about it on sports center, which I think said it was the only time both were holders of the trophy at the same time in D1, or at least there was something special about it worthy of a "Did You Know."
Actually, North Carolina would qualify as well.

The Men won the 1993 Championship.

The women won the 1994 Championship on Sunday afternoon, before the men's game was played on Monday night.

BktBallRef Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:48pm

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Also, does anybody know if this first includes the old AIAW era?
Yes, it does. The AIAW was dominated by Immaculata, Delta State and Old Dominion. The only school to break through that domination was Ann Meyers and UCLA in 1978. But if memory serves, Kentucky won the men's in '78, over Duke.


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