On January 20, 2004, after North Carolina defeated the University of Connecticut in North Carolina, BktBallRef wrote
<Center><big><big><big><big><big><big><font><B></b></big></font> Take that WinterWillie!!!

No. 1 my A$$!!! http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk...e/biggrin3.gif</center>
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I appear before you now, humbly, seeking a retraction.http://deephousepage.com/smilies/sad2.gif

LOL!!!!
 

I guess they got rid of the ACC. Good for them. :D

Peace

No retraction here Contact Lens Boy!!
 

<Center>You may have beat Duke and Georgia Tech but you didn't beat the<BR><BR>
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Tony, that was rather lame. http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/boohoo.gif

Come on Tony, you can do better than that. :D

Peace

Re: No retraction here Contact Lens Boy!!
 

Were the tarheels in the NCAA tourny this year?

I have no need to impress someone who pulls for the Little Ten! ;)

BIG EAST/acc
 

The ACC couldn't stop the BIG EAST, maybe the SEC can stop the BIG EAST. If not, we have history in the making!!!! http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/cheesy.gif

Oh boy, guess we Big XII boys will just shut our mouths and go back to roping our cattle and shearing our sheep. See ya next season!

Tried to post this last night but couldn't.
 

Given UConn's dominance over the Lady Vols over the past few years, it wouldn't surprise me if they did take both crowns. Of course, I'm only now revealing that my Yahoo! bracket won my group, as I picked UConn to win it all. :)



BTW, whointhehell would ever use "Billy" as a username? :D

Billy Martin?

Billy Goat Gruff?

Billy Packer? Nah....he's another pompous ACC guy
still gloating about stuff from way back when.

If the ACC was so powerful, why are they once again in another year without a National Championship? And Dickie V is already trying to put North Carolina on top for next year. Are you serious, that is why this conference is way over-rated. I guess Michigan is going to win the NC next year as well. Give me a break, the ACC once again goes home with no hardware.

Peace

Indeed. The ACC's "best" was a shot or two away
from getting beat by little tiny Reno.

I'm in the PAC 10......I ain't saying a thing!

Billy Buckner?

You mean B**** B******?

Or Bdexter Bdexter?

Moderators - we need an edit on an expletive!

The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

Winning the National Championship does not determine which conference is the best. It simply determines which team is the best. If it did, that would mean the Little 10 really SUCKS! 1 championship in the past 15 years, versus FIVE for the ACC! alk about no hardware! BTW, we beat Little 10 teams in 3 of those Championship games. MSU beat Florida, a REAL basketball powerhouse (Please note sarcasm!) ;)

Face it Rut, the Little 10 will NEVER be the great basketball conference the ACC is. Their thing is football and we'll soon be better in that! :D

Re: The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

ATLANTIC-10, BABY!!!

And don't forget the powerhouse conference of A-10 football! Rhode Island, UMass, a bunch of teams I can't remember . . . . :p

Re: The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

That would be two National Championships. If we use your logic, outside of Duke, that means two for the ACC as well.

All you did was add Miami. Virgina Tech and Boston College? I guess the polls will burn now with that great lineup? :rolleyes: Neither team has done anything in its history. FSU has dominated the ACC unlike any team in any conference in history. They do not know what it is like not to win an ACC title. One year maybe. And they is going to make them better? I am sure both Miami with will have fear when they go to Tabacco road to beat those powerhouses in North Carolina. I can see Miami shivering with to play NC State and North Carolina and Duke. Man those games will sure make the National spotlight. Remember, Ohio State got in the *** of Miami in the National Championship game. But then again, we all can have a dream.

Peace

I didn't know the ACC had football....

Re: Re: The Little 10 sucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

WTF are you babbling about? What would be two National Champiosnhips? What logic are you referring to? Look, if you can't keep up, don't post. :)

The score is ACC = 5, Little 10 - 1 over the past 15 years! :D

Re: The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

"Winning the National Championship does not determine which conference is the best. It simply determines which team is the best."

Well then, I guess the big east is the best confrence (3 for 6) and UConn is the best team (2 for 6) and Calhoun is
the best coach... when you consider he brought this school
from nowhere. UConn used to loss to Yale and New Hampshire
prior to his arrival....this isn't like taking over at
NC and then sucking wind. UConn was nothing when he got there. There was no program at all.

And the UConn girls are in a class of their own....shades
of UCLA circa the Wooden era.

Anyway, I agree about the big ten. It isn't hoop. They
play football in the gyms there these days.

Re: Re: The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

Good grief! More incoherent babble.

Having one team win a championship does not make a conference the best conference.

Having one team win twice in 6 years does not make a conference the best conference.

I'll say it once more for those who can't understand:

THE ACC WAS EASILY THE BEST CONFERENCE IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL THIS SEASON! AND WILL BE NEXT SEASON TOO! :)

Re: Re: Re: The Little 10 msucks and you know, yet won't admit it!
 

Babble? Sorry to cloud the issue with facts. The only big east team the ACC beat in the tourny was Duke over Seton Hall. The Big east won every other matchup. Each team had three in the sweet sixteen, but at that level the ACC didn't win a game over a big east oppenent. The ACC is better than the big east? I guess if you say so. You are an ACC *FAN* (sorry to use that dirty word here) right? So your unbiased OPINION must be right.

Is the ACC overrated? How many times did they lose to lower
seeds including those from the big east? Last year the big east had 4 vs 2 for the ACC in the sweet 16, and the championship. Just the facts, babble and (fan based) opinion free.

The ACC is still overrated. You know it, and I know it. UConn was a way better team at the end of the year then Duke was, but they got a #2 seed and Duke got a #1 and who won the NC. You can make this about the Big Ten all you want, but the last time I checked, the Big East won the last two championships, not the ACC or the Big Ten or Pac 10. But North Carolina is already getting stroked by Dickie V and telling the world that NC is #1. Whatever. :rolleyes: And they will barely make the tournament again next year or make another early exit in the tournament, but they are the #1 team right? ;)

Peace

And Michigan will once again be in the NIT. :D

And since when is a #6 seed barely making it into the tournament, Mr. "We Did't Barely Make It" Wolverine.

BTW, let's point out that the ACC and the Big East have won the last 4 titles in a row! ;)

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Yep! Babble from a rook! You're just peeved because all your football schools are leaving for the ACC! :D

Couldn't care less about UConn football...I thought we
were talking hoop? Are you sure you aren't Ruts evil twin? When you have nothing to come back with you changed the subject and started in calling me names. That all ya got ACC "FANBOY"? "Old timer". Now, isn't that silly? Calling people names when you have nothing better.

Do you really think UConn / Big East folks are the ones that are "peeved" right now? PSYCH 101 projection old chum.

It is alright for Michigan to not be that strong in Basketball every now and then, but the school has won NC in both Basketball and Football. When has North Carolina won a football NC? When has Duke won a NC in Football? Hell does Duke have football? I know Ohio State can claim a NC in both football and basketball. Maybe you can hang your hat on soccer? Wow, soooocccerrrr. ;)

Peace

One team gets hardware - that is not the measure of relative strength of conference. Performance overall in the tournament is the best measure. Two final four teams and one finalist is a pretty strong statement - one half of the top teams were ACC. This is weak? This is overrated? One quarter of the elite eight and one quarter of the sweet sixteen was ACC. Every ACC team won in the first round. One Big Ten team made the sweet sixteen, and lost to a team from . . . Oh, never mind.

The RPIs had the ACC, the SEC, the Big 12, the Big East, and the A-10 toward the top. SEC fell short, the A-10 showed well but lost two close regional finals, the Big 12 was a whisker from the national final, and the Big East won it all. But the ACC was strongest before the tourney, and stongest after. They had the only 1 seed to make hte final four (and thus certify the high ranking on the court).

UM is my pre-season number 1, but they are every year before the season, even if they are banned from post-season. Unfortunately, reality has had a habit lately of overwhelming my dreams.

UM is my pre-season number 1, but they are every year before the season, even if they are banned from post-season. Unfortunately, reality has had a habit lately of overwhelming my dreams.

[/B][/QUOTE]We're #66, we're #66........

I still maintain they are #50 - there are at least 15 losers in the NCAA. At least UM won a game in March :)

That all ya got ACC "FANBOY"? "

[/B][/QUOTE]Heeheeheeheee..............

I agree, Hawks Coach. You could arguably claim Michigan was better than most of the teams with automatic births. Take out about 8-10 teams from that group, and Michigan is better than roughly 25 (how many automatics are there now?) teams that made the tourney (as were the top 8-10 NIT teams.)
FWIW, I can't stand Michigan and have enjoyed the fallout from the Fab-5 days. I bleed black and gold (Hawkeyes), and the only thing sweeter than a Michigan loss is an Ohio State loss. Except when it comes tournament time, then it's all about the conference.

Dude, it'a all in fun. Stop being so serious about it all. You can call me Old Timer anytime you want to, and I'll call you Li'l Bill, since you don't like rook. ;)

Unless I'm mistaken, I beleive the lawsuit was filed in Connecticut. UConn is a major player in the suit. So yes, I'd say the BE and UConn are still quite peeved, although I'm sure they enjoyed beating two ACC teams in the Final 4. They were better than both.

BTW, you sound a lot more like Rut than I do. :D

Big East fan here. Cincinnati, Louisville, DePaul and Marquette additions should make them the best conference IMHO. And THANK GOD they are getting rid of Boston College! Wannabe crybabies...hows that for name calling. Oops, must be my love for Providence College coming out. Speaking of the Friars, boy was I disappointed with their performance in the Tourny.

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"Go Friars (maybe next year)"

It's diffuclt to understand how the Big East can sue Miami and the ACC and then turn around and invite teams from COnference USA to join the BE. I mean, how is that different from the ACC inviting the football schools to join.

And I agree that the Big East will once again be tremendously strong in basketball, the way they were in the late 80's.

BktBall - I said I was a Big East fan, not a Big East Conference Commissioner fan. You have a very valid point. But they have made other poor decisions, such as having the top 4 conference teams in the pre season rankings play each other twice and get all that TV exposure and show the "second" tier teams on TV maybe twice all season. That kind of blew up in their faces when Seton Hall and Providence were beating the likes of UConn, Syracuse and Pitt.

I hear ya! ;)

Sorry, I'm no lawyer. I don't care how they divy it up. Just
win baby! Which goes to answering HawksCoach: the BE was seeded lower than ACC teams and beat higher seeds. The ACC was seeded higher and tended to lose over the last two years. That would make the ACC overated and the BE underrated. I think UConn is something like 19-0 against lower seeds. Duke has lost to lower seeded UConn twice.

And I'm all for having fun! You can call me rook and make fun of "Billy" as a screen name and I'll call you "ACC FANBOY". Cool. But hey, when did Rut ever stick to the facts? No, your more like Rut than me and I thought to say it first. Nahnah! ;-)

Billy, I can site just as many "facts" as you can. But what an individual draws from those "facts" can be very one sided.

For example, in an earlier post, you wrote, "I guess the big east is the best confrence (3 for 6)." Well big whoop! I can counter that with that the ACC is 2 for 4.

You wrote, "Each team had three in the sweet sixteen, but at that level the ACC didn't win a game over a big east oppenent." That's true, can't argue that. But there were no BE/ACC matchups in the Sweet 16! Could that be why the ACC didn't beat a BE team "at that level?" DUH! :)

A #2 beating a #1 or a #5 beating a #4 is not that big of a deal. It happens quite often. Seeding is a guessing game to begin with.

Yeah, UConn beat Duke and GT in the Final Four. They should have, as they were the best team. But who did UConn's two non-conference losses come from? North Carolina and Georgia Tech. Those are facts too.

So yeah, we can quote facts all day. In the end, it don't mean a thang. :)

Ryan Gomes goes to the NBA in a first round lottery pick.


Speaking of the Friars, boy was I disappointed with their performance in the Tourny

After Maris Lafka left the team to play professional basketball in Europe near the end of season, they ended the season on a losing streak.