can somebody tell me where to find out who has been assigned to do the UConn/Tennessee game in New Orleans?
Thanks.

It is a curiosity to me as to why we want to know who the officials are *going to be*.
Why do we want to know?
mick

Watch the beginning of the game. They will most likely tell you just before tipoff who the officials are.

Still hoping to get the call maybe?

Anyway, this question does pop up this time of year, a lot like the crocus.

[Edited by Dan_ref on Apr 5th, 2004 at 10:45 AM]

As Gilda Radner used to say
 

Never Mind !

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Regardless, I am willing to bet the coaches know, so that they may adust their practice to their particular perception of the officiating crew.
mick

It's usually not a "crew" in the true sense of the word, as they put together a crew of the top officials (in their eyes) in the women's game. If they don't usually work together as a crew, you would be trying to guess the way the game will be called without any real basis to know how that group will get together and officiate.

Time is better spent analyzing their opponent :)

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Hmmm...but what happens if the crew decides to call the game differently than how the coaches expect them to call the game??? Then what????!!!

Hardly consistent with the opinion you put forth in our discussion earlier today. IMO.

Hawks Coach,
Though the opponent is the emphasis, the officiating crew was often considered as part of the puzzle as far back as my High School in 1964.
Which officials: <LI>Let you attack the ball<LI>Let you attack the basket<LI>Call unseen hacks<LI>Are fixated on post play<LI>Watch the shooter back to the floor<LI>Award verticality

I find it very hard to believe that a coach does not know the officials for the upcoming game.
mick

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The better team will win.
The better team will adjust. ;)

Anyway, this question does pop up this time of year, a lot like the crocus.

[/B][/QUOTE]I, too, shall rise again. Like the mighty crocus!!

Would 2 crocus's be a croci?

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Nope.

The names of officials for each game aren't released until 30 minutes before tip-off.

Of course, if the a coach or manager happens to see one of the refs around town . . . . They're not sequestered. (The Nat'l. Championship Game officials are, however, prohibited from watching the semi's in person.)

Just announced. The 3 stooges have been picked. Oh, I'm sorry, April Fools has already gone by. Regardless, I'm sure it'll be a great crew on the floor.

I, too, shall rise again. Like the mighty crocus!!

[/B][/QUOTE]

Don't forget to call your doctor if it lasts longer than 36 hours.

For what it is worth, I am from Lexington, Ky. (home area for Tina Napier and Lisa Mattingly). Not that our newspaper knows anything for sure, but it did mention that Lisa Mattingly is expected to work the Women's Finals tomorrow night...

Don't forget to call your doctor if it lasts longer than 36 hours. [/B][/QUOTE]If it lasts longer than 36 hours, I'm calling everybody!!

Go to the movies. Take a six-pack with you, too. Enjoy. Then we won't have sit in front of our computers, getting madder by the minute at some dexterhead fanboy who doesn't know or understand the rules of basketball.

Shoo, fanboy, shoo!

struck a nerve did it?
 

RTFLMAO

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Keep it clean and on the screen.

Actually, longer than four is when you should start to worry . . .

I heard that the FDA has approved Viagra to be used by dentists. It's only supposed to be used in conjunction with female patients that cannot tolerate normal freezing or nitrous oxide. The theory is that the dentist takes it, and then later it will give the patient something to hang onto while they're getting a tooth pulled.

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You can't win an arguement with an ignorant fan. :(

Completely consistent, IMO. I don't think either coach would have expected that Duke- Uconn crew to officiate the way they did. So what good would it have done to think too much about it? The crew is going to get together a day or so before the game to decide how they are going to work together.

If you have officials you have seen together, especially regular HS crews, you know what you are going to see. We have adjusted when we know that an official tends to call everything underneath a foul - we wll attack the basket even more than usual, and try to deny an inside attack to our opponents.

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I thought the Championship game officials were picked from the semi's.

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Silly you!

Saw an ad on TV last week or so, for a similar product with "effectiveness up to 36 hours." Amazingly one of the side effects was listed as (I'm not kidding here), "fatigue and muscle soreness." My 20-year-old son and I were ROTFLourAO!!

That's what happened to me when I took it. :D

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Nope.

10 officials who worked regional games (semi's or finals) are selected.

One is an alternate for all 3 Final Four games.

The other nine are split into crews of three, and each crew works one game (Nat'l Semi 1, Nat'l Semi 2, Nat'l Championship).

That's what happened to me when I was 20.

You claimed earlier the earth was knocked off it's axis by 5 deg because the game was not called as expected which lead to confusion among the players & coaches. In other words they anticipated and planned for a particular style of officiating. On the other hand, you say here that there's no use in worrying about the officials and your time is better spent making sure your team is ready to play.

Mark,
Yet again you have provided some wonderfully, interesting tidbit of information on the NCAA officiating process. I can only believe that you ask some of the guys how it is done when you are working the table.
But for the sake of completeness, could you state exactly how you come by this enlightening info?

He might have to kill you if he tells you.

OK, go ahead and take one statement and make it mean something exactly the opposite of what I said. You amaze me. In your strong desire to win another argument, one in which I have conceded we will just disagree, you turn my main point completely opposite of what it was.

I never mentioned anticipate or plan - those are your words in this post only. I said they were accustomed to a certain style of play adopted over all of their games this winter, and that trying to completely change how two teams play defense in response to calls that players can't easily figure out is hard for a single game. If anything, the teams did NOT take time to make a special plan for this group of officials, although I am not sure why they would. I don't think any of the individuals in this group had a previous habit of calling things tight.

I never suggested that they game planned around the officials, in fact I think the opposite. Read what I say, and don't try to make it into what it would have been convenient for me to have said.

I worked the men's NCAA tourney when the 1st/2nd rounds were in D.C. a few years back, and got a copy of the tournament handbook. I lost my copy, but they have the PDF's posted online:

http://www.ncaa.org/library/handbook...004/index.html

That's the beauty of the NCAA - just about everything is a PDF somewhere on their website.

Since Barlow, Bell, and Yarbrough worked the semis. My guess for a crew tonight would be the following:

Lisa Mattingly
Dee Kantner
Barb Smith

Alternate: Bryan Enterline

Enterline was the alternate last year so I think that he will be doing the game toinght

Good catch smoref. I remembered that fact after I posted this message. Thanks for catching that for me. Actually, I hope Bryan gets the nod this year as I have had the chance to work with Bryan in the past.

Outstanding official and person to work a game with. Really enjoyed working with Bryan.

I have had a chance to see him work a few games last year and was able to talk with him about philosophy and other things. He really know his stuff and was good to talk with.

I would never have any doubts if he was on any crew.

It's the same alternate for all 3 Final Four games - so you've seen whoever the alternate is already.

Absolutely.

Bryan is great at keeping his cool no matter what - possibly the calmest, most collected official I've ever seen (I need to learn quite a bit from him). The whole game can be going to hell, but he stays strong and consistent.

Bryan, indeed, did get the nod over Barb Smith, and he is very deserving of the assignment. I have known Bryan for over 10 years, and tonight assignment could not have happened to a nicer guy or better official.

MTD, Sr.

Thanks Mark. Although it took me a while to find what I was after under Appendix O. How appropriate!
Also, if you are talking about those games that were played at the MCI, I was there too, but I didn't have nearly as good of seats as you did. :)

Nor did I pay as much as you probably did. :)

MCI Center/GT is going to be hosting again in 2006, I believe. If I'm still in town, I'll definately be volunteering again.