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Luv4Asian8 Sun Apr 04, 2004 01:09am

Situation: A1 shoots ball off backboard on post just as she's about to run OOB. Shot's up, and A1 runs back on court from OOB to rebound, first person to touch ball. I didn't call anything as lead. Coach B is yelling at me saying that she can't rebound if she went OOB. I defend (sorta) my no-call as on a try, it's up for grabs. Was my no-call correct? How about my reasoning? What would you do? Thanks.

Nevadaref Sun Apr 04, 2004 02:11am

The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane.

My basic rule is that whenever a coach argues the rules and he is incorrect, he gets a technical foul.
This way one of two things will happen: 1. the coach will learn the rules and we won't have the problem 2. the coach will stop arguing rules that he doesn't know
(Well, maybe 3. the coach won't change and will receive a second T, which still gets rid of the problem.)

rainmaker Sun Apr 04, 2004 02:21am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane.

My basic rule is that whenever a coach argues the rules and he is incorrect, he gets a technical foul.

I assume you're joking, or you work with coaches that are a lot different from the types of coaches I work with. COACHES don't know all the rules, and the ones they know, they don't know very intimately. That's why WE get the big bucks, to understand and enforce the rules.

Nevadaref Sun Apr 04, 2004 02:53am

Try it, you might like it.
 
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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane.

My basic rule is that whenever a coach argues the rules and he is incorrect, he gets a technical foul.

I assume you're joking, or you work with coaches that are a lot different from the types of coaches I work with. COACHES don't know all the rules, and the ones they know, they don't know very intimately. That's why WE get the big bucks, to understand and enforce the rules.

No. I'm quite serious. These are varsity coaches I'm talking about and I expect a certain level of competency out of them. I certainly let coaches ask questions and make points, if they do it politely. However, if they insist on bickering, whining, complaining, gesticulating, or arguing about something and I know that they are incorrect, then.... Whack!

I have done this for 2 years now, and have developed a no nonsense rep in this area of which the coaches are well aware.
They know that I know the rules and that I'll explain a unusual situation to them if they want, but that I'm not going to have a debate on the sideline with them.
Try it once, yourself. See if it gets that ranting coach to knock it off, and makes the game better for you and the players because the head knucklehead is quiet. It may work for you, too. You won't know until you try.

Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 04, 2004 03:09am

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane(sic?).


Spelling error? Did you leave the (s) out of inane?

rainmaker Sun Apr 04, 2004 03:14am

Re: Try it, you might like it.
 
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane.

My basic rule is that whenever a coach argues the rules and he is incorrect, he gets a technical foul.

I assume you're joking, or you work with coaches that are a lot different from the types of coaches I work with. COACHES don't know all the rules, and the ones they know, they don't know very intimately. That's why WE get the big bucks, to understand and enforce the rules.

No. I'm quite serious. These are varsity coaches I'm talking about and I expect a certain level of competency out of them. I certainly let coaches ask questions and make points, if they do it politely. However, if they insist on bickering, whining, complaining, gesticulating, or arguing about something and I know that they are incorrect, then.... Whack!

I have done this for 2 years now, and have developed a no nonsense rep in this area of which the coaches are well aware.
They know that I know the rules and that I'll explain a unusual situation to them if they want, but that I'm not going to have a debate on the sideline with them.
Try it once, yourself. See if it gets that ranting coach to knock it off, and makes the game better for you and the players because the head knucklehead is quiet. It may work for you, too. You won't know until you try.

Well, I guess I do it about the same, but based on the ranting, rather than the apparent lack of rules knowledge. I didn't hear the ranting part in your previous post.

Nevadaref Sun Apr 04, 2004 04:23am

for the betterment of JR
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane(sic?).


Spelling error? Did you leave the (s) out of inane?

Nope.

from merriam-webster online:
Main Entry: 1 inane
Pronunciation: i-'nAn
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): inan·er; -est
Etymology: Latin inanis
1 : EMPTY, INSUBSTANTIAL
2 : lacking significance, meaning, or point : SILLY
synonym see INSIPID
- inane·ly adverb
- inane·ness /-'nAn-n&s/ noun

Nevadaref Sun Apr 04, 2004 04:28am

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Originally posted by rainmaker
Well, I guess I do it about the same, but based on the ranting, rather than the apparent lack of rules knowledge. I didn't hear the ranting part in your previous post.
Yeah, but it's more fun when you tell them later that they were T'd for not knowing the rule. :D

It is true, though, because if the coach had known the rule, then he wouldn't have been complaining and throwing that tantrum. The bad behavior is a direct result of poor rules knowledge.

Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 04, 2004 07:45am

Re: for the betterment of Nevada
 
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
The correct call is a direct technical foul on the head coach for being inane(sic?).


Spelling error? Did you leave the (s) out of inane?

Nope.

from merriam-webster online:
Main Entry: 1 inane
Pronunciation: i-'nAn
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): inan·er; -est
Etymology: Latin inanis
1 : EMPTY, INSUBSTANTIAL
2 : lacking significance, meaning, or point : SILLY
synonym see INSIPID
- inane·ly adverb
- inane·ness /-'nAn-n&s/ noun


Oh my. Thanks for the help, but I was already well aware of the meaning of "inane". That was a weak attempt at humor on my part. I thought that that would be obvious. I was wrong. Next time I will add a smilie when I make a posts like that. That might help.

mick Sun Apr 04, 2004 08:47am

I agree
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Next time I will add a smilie when I make a posts like that. That might help.
An efficacious use of a smiley could have prevented the superego's affectation on the ego's protection of the id.









Jurassic Referee Sun Apr 04, 2004 09:08am

Re: I agree
 
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Originally posted by mick
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An efficacious use of a smiley could have prevented the superego's affectation on the ego's protection of the id.

[/B][/QUOTE]Id's fine with me, Egor.



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