Over and Back??

[GregAlan]

My partner and I were working a 7th and 8th grade girls' game for the YMCA. Ball was being through in from out of bounds sideline frontcourt by Team A. Player A-1 from out of bounds, thinking her teammate A-2 is going to backcourt, throws a high pass, almost out of reach of Player A-2, who decides to stay in her frontcourt. The ball is sailing high over Player A-2, but she manages to just tip it before it goes into the backcourt. Player A-2 goes back into her backcourt, grabs the ball, my partner blows the whistle and signals over and back. I disagreed with her, saying that Team A didn't have control of the ball, one of the conditions for an over-and-back call.

Interpretation please? Isn't it 1) who had control before the ball goes into the backcourt, and 2) who last touched the ball?

Greg

[BktBallRef]

You are correct.

But in addition to what you wrote, it's also FC status and who touches it first after it's been in the BC that determines whether a violation occurs..

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by GregAlan
[B Ball was being through in from out of bounds sideline frontcourt by Team A. Player A-1 from out of bounds, thinking her teammate A-2 is going to backcourt, throws a high pass, almost out of reach of Player A-2, who decides to stay in her frontcourt. The ball is sailing high over Player A-2, but she manages to just tip it before it goes into the backcourt. Player A-2 goes back into her backcourt, grabs the ball, my partner blows the whistle and signals over and back. I disagreed with her, saying that Team A didn't have control of the ball, one of the conditions for an over-and-back call.

Interpretation please? Isn't it 1) who had control before the ball goes into the backcourt, and 2) who last touched the ball?

[/B]

On a throw-in, it doesn't matter who touched the ball last in the frontcourt, as long as no player established control before the ball went into the backcourt. No violation. Case book play 4.12.6Sit(b).

[GregAlan]

Thank you for the reply. My next question as a followup: what constitutes control? Not merely touching the ball in frontcourt, but is there a hard and fast rule on that?

Greg

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by GregAlan
Thank you for the reply. My next question as a followup: what constitutes control? Not merely touching the ball in frontcourt, but is there a hard and fast rule on that?

Greg

Holding or dribbling establishes control.