What can I do to move up the ranking it is so political here where am at and in order for u to move up is like the old saying "It's not what u know its who u know" and I feel like I am getting past up to the varsity level because I don't hang out with these veteran officials so therefore my chance of getting to the college level is very slim since I have very little varsity games under my belt but I do have evauluation sheets from varsity officials who say I'm good enough to moved up but never do they try to help me move up.
So can anyone help me out in what I can do? |
Hang out with the veteran officials. :D
Mregor |
Welcome to the board.
Start hanging out with "these veteran officials." Get to know them. Find one who's willing to mentor you. And don't assume that you're being passed over because of politics. You may feel you're ready for varsity but others may not. We have a lot of guys in our association who feel the same way. But I've seen many of them work and while they think they are ready, they aren't. BTW, please include some punctuation in your posts so that we can read them. :) |
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It has been my experience that the "politics" argument is used by those officials who are unhappy with their ranking and aren't willing to go to the time and effort of really figuring out why they aren't moving up.
If you are as lazy on the floor as you are with your spelling and punctuation, you aren't ready. Z |
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...but I guess if you feel that you have nothing to learn from them that must say something about your ability to learn and move up. |
Two thoughts: #1)Sometimes you gotta play the game by the rules set by those in power (the "upper guys"), so start hanging out with them, work some summer games with them, etc...#2)HS Varsity experience usually has very little to do with working college ball - go to some college camps and work games in front of some college supervisors - if they like the way you work, they will hire you (esp. at the small college level).
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mentality, seems to work against you as you move up. But, as you intimated before, it does help to know someone (as in mentor). |
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I do not know what the political situation is where <b> you </b> live, but I know what I have seen in my association. The good officials get promoted, regardless of who they are related to or who they know. I have never gone to the "Friday night beer and pizza" get togethers but that certainly hasn't hurt me. Is it not possible that the son of the president is a good official? He makes an easy target for those who aren't rated where they think they should be. Z |
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"better" officials <b>died</b>. |
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1) He/she was joking. 2) If he/she was serious, that's obviously unethical and should be reported to your state's officials office. Z |
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Just a thought. Peace |
There are definately some politics in HS associations, but with that said it should not prevent you from moving up into college. I got my 1st college contract after only working a very small amount of HS varsity games.
If you want to do college then you need to go to college camps and work on 3 person mechanics and make sure you are seen working hard by the college assignors. You should find out who the local junior college assignor is. They normaly have some spring leagues for their younger officials to work. You might not get paid to work those games but the experience would be invauluable..... btw we need to add spell check to the board |
I am assuming this official is a male trying to get a boys varsity game. Any advice for a female trying to get a boys varsity game?
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bottom line. Officials shouldn'tworry about moving up. Just worry about getting better and the moving up thing will happen.
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Thought the first, from a college research paper I did a while ago. The thing we like to call politics can be usefully divided into two categories. The first is more properly termed "group dynamic." It is the unwritten, and often unspoken, rules of how a group operates. The second is the underhanded, cloak and dagger, backstabbing behavior some people use to try to get ahead of others.
The word politics is a very loaded term. In the second case, the negative connotations are well deserved and the behavior best avoided. However, the negativity of the term can sometimes lead a person to avoid participating in the group dynamic. This is almost always a mistake. Understanding and participating in the group dynamic is essential to being accepted and successful within the group. It's not stooping to something low and dirty, it's simply the way the group operates. Thought the second, working hard to improve is important. However, it is only half the battle. The other half is getting seen and noticed and talked about among the folks who make decisions about moving people up. This can be harder than the improving part. It requires some amount of luck and often some initiative on the part of the person who wants to move up. Camps are one way to do this, as has been mentioned. I know officials around here who have phoned board members and asked them to come watch them work. I know officials who have asked the assigner to deliberately put them on a JV game ahead of board members working a varsity contest so they can be seen. Our association has a regular Saturday clinic that is a like a camp, where new officials can learn and been seen. Some of these may work for you. They have worked for people around here. You might want to ask around your area to see what works in your situation. |
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OTOH, I can tell you from my personal experience in two state that you can get opportunities based soley on ability. I moved to a new state this year, into an association with well over 400 officials, I worked a full varsity schedule and will officiate the State 5A boys quarter finals tomorrow night. This is not said to pat myself on the back, but I moved to the state right before the season started (literally) so I had no time to network or get to know anyone prior to the season and I still got what I was looking for out of my schedule. IMO, ability has the most to do with what happens to you. None of us (myself included) are as good as we think we are. Cream does rise to the top. |
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I see your point. My point is that no official should be "untouchable." In our association, I am rated #5 (out of 100) this year. If someone rated below me is better than me, they should move ahead of my and I should move down for next year. To say that I have to "die" before I move down is not right. We have a peer rating system here and I once heard one of my fellow veterans tell the group, "if you aren't sure how to rate someone, take a look at where they were rated last year and that's a pretty good indicator." I about fell over. After I got back up, I disagreed and told everyone they need to rate based on what they observe in the current year. I didn't mean to see that our state officials association can dictate how our local association rates. However, they are a body that oversees each association, so they could step in if they felt that a local association was operating in an unethical manner. Z |
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You need to start hanging out with those officials you feel will help you advance. You have to know how to play the game, kiss as*, the whole nine yards. If you play the game, kiss as* you will get better assignments. Take it from someone who knows. I was not a game player and was not going to kiss any as* I thought I could get ahead by my talents and working extra hard. I thought I would be noticed. Then I realized that I was not going to get the higher level games based on my knowledge of the game, or work ethic. I was going to get the higher level games by kissing as*, playing the game. Today I have the higher level varsity games. I can kiss *** with the best of them, and I know how to play the game. I may not be a better offical, but I have become a great as* kisser. I can play the game so will, if the Acadamey gave out an Oscar for as* kissing. I would win the best supporting official.
We call this the homeboy club, and let me tell you I did not want anything to do with it. I have learned you want to be in the homeboy club. As a matter of fact, not to much longer I will be president. |
Yeah, but do you know how to kiss a**?
And here I was just trying to make sure I'm in position to make the next call correctly. Now I see I have all these other things I should be worrying about. |
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