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Old Tue Feb 10, 2004, 11:16am
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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No, Dan, although it sort of sounds that way. The difference is that in the case of the kicked ball, the violation occured before the ball was legally toched inbounds. In the case of the ball knocked OOB, the ball was legally touched and then went OOB.

Do NOT confuse this issue with when the throw-in ends (4-41-5). But for this particular situation, the determining factor is whether the violation (or foul) occured before or after the ball was legally touched.
Chuck,
The problem with your explanation is that the NFHS rule does NOT include the word "legally", only the NCAA manual does.

you cannot apply your logic of legally touching and the timing of when the throw-in ends to rule on this NFHS play.
No offense, Nevada, but re-read the second paragraph of my post. I thought I made clear that the rationale for the ruling has nothing to do with when the throw-in ends. The point of the legal touching is NOT that the throw-in has ended (or not); the point of the legal touching is relevant ONLY for the purpose of determining whether the throw-in team retains the right to run the endline.

Again, just to be clear, I am not equating legal touching to the end of the throw-in.

If the violation or foul occurs before the ball is legally touched inbounds, the throw-in team retains the ability to run the endline. If the violation or foul occurs after the ball is legally touched inbounds, a designated spot throw-in results.
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