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Bart Tyson Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:56pm

NCAA women's. Tape on the earlobe. What is the rule?

JRutledge Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:00am

NCAA Rule.
 
You cannot wear jewelry, that is the rule. No matter what you throw on top of it to cover it up. No different than NF Rules. And this is not a rule for just the Women, it is an NCAA Rule.

Peace

Bart Tyson Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:16am

So, do we ask if the tape is covering an earring? What if she says no?

JRutledge Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:53am

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Originally posted by Bart Tyson
So, do we ask if the tape is covering an earring? What if she says no?
That is up to you and your assignor how you handle it.

But if it is obvious to you that they are wearing an earring, then they are not suppose to play. They do not have to take the tape off to recognize that fact.

I usually ask why are they wearing a tape? Then they tell me they are and we move on from there.

Peace

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:52am

Tape over an ear is a "RED" flag. Whenever I see tape over an ear, eye brow, or nose (yes I had a player try to hide a nose stud with a bandaid), I ask to see what is under the tape. Ever since jewelry was banned, players have tried to hide it with tape or bandaids. Officials know it and players know that officials know it. It is called due diligence on the part of the official to check under the tape or bandaid. I do not care if it is a high school game or a college game. Do not check under the tape and a player gets seriously hurt because the earring and the player's lawyer is going to ask why you did not check under the tape since it is a well known fact that players try to hide earrings under tape.

DJ Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:28pm

Tongue
 
Maybe it has been asked before but what about a tongue piercing? I assume it is a no no. In a football game a kid rolled an ankle and when they took his shoes and socks off he had an ankle bracelet on? I did not penalize him because I hate to hit somebody when they are down(late hit - 15 yds) but probably should have as he was carried off the field.

mick Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:33pm

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Officials know it and players know that officials know it. It is called <U>due diligence</U> on the part of the official to check under the tape or bandaid.
Mark T.,
My "due diligence" ends with their negative answer.
I won't take a peek.
mick

Smitty Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:34pm

We were told specifically in our association that tongue rings, bellybutton rings, any jewelry is not allowed. Now checking for such things can be an interesting exercise. I would imagine I could get into more trouble checking for bellybutton rings as I would if my association found out a girl was wearing one and I didn't notice it. Can you imagine asking high school girls to pull up their shirts so I could check for a bellybutton ring? "But officer, my association told me to!". ;)

rainmaker Wed Jan 28, 2004 01:00pm

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Originally posted by Smitty
We were told specifically in our association that tongue rings, bellybutton rings, any jewelry is not allowed. Now checking for such things can be an interesting exercise. I would imagine I could get into more trouble checking for bellybutton rings as I would if my association found out a girl was wearing one and I didn't notice it. Can you imagine asking high school girls to pull up their shirts so I could check for a bellybutton ring? "But officer, my association told me to!". ;)
I hope you were told that body-piercing rules were only enforced if there was some sort of accidental exposure, such as might happen in a scuffle for control. That's what I've been told repeatedly in the same association. What I do is point out to captains what the gruesome possibilities are if they DON"T take these items out. Then I don't worry about it.

Smitty Wed Jan 28, 2004 01:06pm

Yes of course. I was just joking about that part. I don't look for trouble.

DownTownTonyBrown Wed Jan 28, 2004 02:22pm

Privates
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Smitty
We were told specifically in our association that tongue rings, bellybutton rings, any jewelry is not allowed. Now checking for such things can be an interesting exercise. I would imagine I could get into more trouble checking for bellybutton rings as I would if my association found out a girl was wearing one and I didn't notice it. Can you imagine asking high school girls to pull up their shirts so I could check for a bellybutton ring? "But officer, my association told me to!". ;)
There are other... more private places that are getting pierced today... and I'm not checking for those.

No visible jewelry, or taped over jewelry, is good enough for me.

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 28, 2004 05:56pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Officials know it and players know that officials know it. It is called <U>due diligence</U> on the part of the official to check under the tape or bandaid.
Mark T.,
My "due diligence" ends with their negative answer.
I won't take a peek.
mick


IANAL, but I agree - if they say no (and I can't clearly see one), I believe them and the liability is on the player.

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 28, 2004 05:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Smitty
We were told specifically in our association that tongue rings, bellybutton rings, any jewelry is not allowed. Now checking for such things can be an interesting exercise. I would imagine I could get into more trouble checking for bellybutton rings as I would if my association found out a girl was wearing one and I didn't notice it. Can you imagine asking high school girls to pull up their shirts so I could check for a bellybutton ring? "But officer, my association told me to!". ;)
Flag football this past fall.

Our first year of running a sorority league.

The ladies of a certain sorority come out onto the field, all with their shirts hiked up to their midriffs - kinda hard to miss all the navel rings in this case. :-/ (Usually, you know they're there but can't check.)

BktBallRef Wed Jan 28, 2004 06:35pm

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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Officials know it and players know that officials know it. It is called <U>due diligence</U> on the part of the official to check under the tape or bandaid.
Mark T.,
My "due diligence" ends with their negative answer.
I won't take a peek.
mick


IANAL, but I agree - if they say no (and I can't clearly see one), I believe them and the liability is on the player.

If I see tape where a piercing would routinely be, (ear, nose, lip) they will have to show me that the tape is not covering a piece of jewelry.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jan 28, 2004 08:31pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Officials know it and players know that officials know it. It is called <U>due diligence</U> on the part of the official to check under the tape or bandaid.
Mark T.,
My "due diligence" ends with their negative answer.
I won't take a peek.
mick


IANAL, but I agree - if they say no (and I can't clearly see one), I believe them and the liability is on the player.

If I see tape where a piercing would routinely be, (ear, nose, lip) they will have to show me that the tape is not covering a piece of jewelry.


No wonder the entire eastern part of the USA is covered in ice and snow, Tony agreed with me. LOL

MTD, Sr.


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