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Player obtains his 5th foul. pulls his shirt over his head and runs off the court before the coach or player is told it is his 5th foul.
Is this a player T foul or a bench technical foul? IT would seem the player is still a player on the court and this would make it a player T? Correct? Stew in Va CVBOA |
If you call this, it's a player T. He's still a player until he and his coach are notified (I think both have to be told before he's considered bench personnel).
However, are you going to call this? |
It would depend completely on the rest of the circumstances for me. If there is no attempt to "show up" anyone, and the kid is just leaving, I would be hard pressed to call a T. The ball is dead, there really is no damage, and as long as it is basically done in a sportsmanlike way, why muddy the waters? get the sub and move along in my book anyway. :)
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thanks Stew |
Okay. Yeah, if he pops off to you, it's just a T on him, and he's just earned the distinction of being one of the few players each year to have 6 personal fouls in one game.
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Okay. I think I was partly wrong. The player becomes bench personnel as soon as the coach is notified. So, once you tell the coach, the coach gets an indirect if the kid pops off.
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I think this is the exact reason I wish we weren't supposed to tell the coach first. If we tell the player first and he pops off the T is on him. If we tell the coach and then the player, which we are supposed to do, then he pops off the coach gets charged too, even though he didn't have the opportunity to cool him off. |
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