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JRutledge Sun Jan 11, 2004 06:49pm
Easy T.
 
I would also just give a regular T. No reason to run him for that alone in my opinion.

Peace

BktBallRef Sun Jan 11, 2004 07:29pm
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Originally posted by BigJoe
At first when I read this post I was leaning toward a flagrant T on the coach. But I gave it some more thought and would only go with a run of the mill T. If it was directed at me or my partner(s) I would run the coach with a flagrant T. There would also be an incident report filed when I got home.
Why is it flagrant if he does it to you but not flagrant if he does it to the crowd? That makes no sense.

So, if he yelled "F*** you!" at you, it would be flagrant but it would just be a T if he yelled it to a fan?

BigJoe Sun Jan 11, 2004 08:11pm
"And the rules shall set you free!" Thanks BktBallRef for making me justify my interpretation. I reread the pertinent rules regarding this situation and "the bird" no matter who it is aimed at should be assessed a flagrant technical foul. Rule 4-19 Art. 4... A flagrant foul.......If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct.
I would consider this vulgar conduct.

ChuckElias Sun Jan 11, 2004 08:17pm
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
I believe it was actually Roseanne Rosanna Danna who said, "Never mind." :)
That would not be correct, I'm afraid. It was Emily.

I really thought Gilda was brilliant. :(

BktBallRef Sun Jan 11, 2004 09:57pm
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Originally posted by BigJoe
"And the rules shall set you free!" Thanks BktBallRef for making me justify my interpretation. I reread the pertinent rules regarding this situation and "the bird" no matter who it is aimed at should be assessed a flagrant technical foul. Rule 4-19 Art. 4... A flagrant foul.......If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct.
I would consider this vulgar conduct.
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BktBallRef Sun Jan 11, 2004 09:58pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by BktBallRef
I believe it was actually Roseanne Rosanna Danna who said, "Never mind." :)
That would not be correct, I'm afraid. It was Emily.

I really thought Gilda was brilliant. :(
Yep, now that I think about it, you're right.

Man, that hurt. :)


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