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Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 23, 2003 04:03pm

Utah is 2 whistle, right through the state finals, I believe.

TXMATTHEW05 Tue Dec 23, 2003 06:43pm

North Carolina - 3 man all season, all games.

David B Tue Dec 23, 2003 07:02pm

it varies in MS
 
In MS our association uses mostly three man and all tournaments are three man.

Still some of the smaller schools will use two man on non-district contests.

But I still believe much of our state still uses two man during the season.

The state tournaments are all three man.

Thanks
DAvid

tomegun Tue Dec 23, 2003 07:10pm

In Nevada it is 3-person for 4A.

In Maryland it depends on what the school/board wants.

The better question is who thinks we don't need 3-person and why? The athletes are getting faster, stronger and more sneaky/dirty. The coaches are getting more "big time." I think it is becoming more of a challenge doing games with 2 people. However, it is still fun no matter what!

smoref Tue Dec 23, 2003 07:35pm

in WA
 
Washington State uses 2 person right now. It appears that we may be switching soon to 3 person for at least districts and state tourny

BigUmpJohn Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:22am

In PA, at least in western PA, it's 3-whistle for most V and, I believe, JV level games all the way up to our district championships. It does depend on the district here.

[Edited by BigUmpJohn on Dec 23rd, 2003 at 11:24 PM]

GA ref Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:51am

Georgia uses crew of 3 for both girls & boys varisty games. Surprised that so many states use two different crewws for boys & girls varisty games. Do most officials work for just one side ?

BigDave Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:53am

Arizona
 
We are strictly 2-whistle at all levels until the state tournament. Those games are 3-whistle.

JCurrie Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:17pm

Quote:

In PA, at least in western PA, it's 3-whistle for most V and, I believe, JV level games all the way up to our district championships. It does depend on the district here.
I'm out of the Pittsburgh area, and we never use 3-man for JV games.

Rick Vietti Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:21pm

Nevada is 3 whistle for large schools (4a) boys and girls.
All playoffs for all levels are 3 person.

What is interesting from the states listed that "Money" is sighted as the reason they do not want 3 whistles. Our association figured it costs a school less than $500 for a season to have an extra official.

Some of the schools are traveling out of state etc... to go to tournaments. Can they really sight "Money" as the main factor or is it some other reason?

Back In The Saddle Wed Dec 24, 2003 01:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by tomegun
The better question is who thinks we don't need 3-person and why? The athletes are getting faster, stronger and more sneaky/dirty. The coaches are getting more "big time." I think it is becoming more of a challenge doing games with 2 people. However, it is still fun no matter what!
I've been told that coaches here are resistant to the idea because it will mean using less qualified officials in higher level contests. Smaller, more rural schools especially feel they'll get the fuzzy end of the lollipop stick.

jlope1 Wed Dec 24, 2003 01:57pm

In San Diego, CA, certain tournaments during the regular season will have 3 whistle and a few regular season varsity contests will have 3 whistle if the 2 teams agree to it. All playoff games are 3 whistle. I'm not sure what the other parts of the state do.

rainmaker Wed Dec 24, 2003 02:00pm

All Oregon game under Federation, are two whistle. Period. There are a few summer tourneys that use modified Federation rules, and three whistle CCA. These are usually ref camps.

dblref Wed Dec 24, 2003 02:57pm

Re: it varies in MS
 
Quote:

Originally posted by David B
In MS our association uses mostly three man and all tournaments are three man.

Still some of the smaller schools will use two man on non-district contests.

But I still believe much of our state still uses two man during the season.

The state tournaments are all three man.

Thanks
DAvid

David: What part of MS? I grew up in Hattiesburg, went to county school (FCAHS in Brooklyn), and went to USM (class of '70).

dblref Wed Dec 24, 2003 03:00pm

Quote:

Originally posted by GA ref
Georgia uses crew of 3 for both girls & boys varisty games. Surprised that so many states use two different crewws for boys & girls varisty games. Do most officials work for just one side ?
In my association, a varsity official works both. We used to have separate commissioners, but did away with it about 3 years ago. We have some guys that work 90% boys and vice versa. My varsity schedule is almost exclusively girls and it doesn't bother me at all -- pay is the same. :D


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