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IAABO_Ref Tue Dec 16, 2003 08:03pm

BOTH teams must be charged with a timeout for both players to remain in the game. When team A requested and was granted the timeout the calling official should have asked team B if they would like to take on also. If B says yes you would have two timeouts being timed at the same time. The point of the rule is to have it cost a team a time out to delay the game to have the player repaired and remain in the game.

Just like the saying says there’s no such thing as a free ride.

missinglink Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:15am

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In addition, the B coach does not have to call a timeout to get his player back in the game sooner. He may not have felt it was necessary. However, once the team A coach called timeout, the B coach is free to bring his player back in the game using the timeout taken by A. Team B should not be penalized for the decisions of team A.....
Sez who?

sez nobody anymore, see the thread part above.

Dan_ref Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:22am

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They did take the timeout, the way I read it. Which is why I would have let A1 back in.

Except they didn't take the TO until after A1 had been subbed for. So, A1 now can't enter until the clock has run. IOW, the time to allow the "injury TO" has passed -- it's just a regular TO and all the regular TO and sbustitution rules apply.

If A had taken the TO before the sub, then A1 could return, or they could sub if A1 wasn't ready.


Yeah Bob, I got that part.

Still OOO.

ChuckElias Wed Dec 17, 2003 09:29am

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Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Dan_ref Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:46am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Yeah.

ChuckElias Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:54am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Yeah.

In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)

Dan_ref Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:57am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Yeah.

In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)

Do you mean THE God, with a cap G or the notion of god, with a lower case g...or are they the same?

rainmaker Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:59am

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Yeah.

In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)

Do you mean THE God, with a cap G or the notion of god, with a lower case g...or are they the same?

Dan, that's mighty thin ice you're skating on there.

Dan_ref Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:21pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Still OOO.
Obviously overly officious?

Yeah.

In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)

Do you mean THE God, with a cap G or the notion of god, with a lower case g...or are they the same?

Dan, that's mighty thin ice you're skating on there.

How do you figure? It's an honest question

rainmaker Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:57pm

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In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)
Do you mean THE God, with a cap G or the notion of god, with a lower case g...or are they the same?
Dan, that's mighty thin ice you're skating on there.
How do you figure? It's an honest question [/B]
Okay, sorry, I mis-interpreted. I'm suspecting that Chuck means THE God, rather than the notion of god, and that they're not the same. At least, in my religious training the Omni's and "wholly good" are used only in reference to "the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob", who you are calling God with a capital G (which is a perfectly reasonable reference -- I'm not denigrating it). I know a little about Chuck's background, and I'm guessing he means that as well.

I like using OOO. It has connotations that are quite useful in both your usage and Chuck's. You can say it, "Oh, Oh, Oh." and it sounds very impressive, or you can say, "ooooo" to rhyme with Moooo. This has an awed overtone which denotes the elevation of the referent -- in the case of a referee who is OOO, it is spoken with sarcasm. Good call!

ChuckElias Wed Dec 17, 2003 01:45pm

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In philosophy, "OOO" is how we describe God: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent. (We throw in "wholly good" to round out the definition.)

Do you mean THE God, with a cap G or the notion of god, with a lower case g...

Unless the idea of God created the universe, it's refering to THE God. That definition is intended to be a description of a supernatural spirtual entity; not a mere idea. Although St. Anselm argued that the mere idea of God proved that there really is a God, I put little credence in his "proof".

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or are they the same?
If there really is a God, then they're clearly not the same thing. If there really is not a God, then it doesn't really matter.


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