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tomegun Fri Dec 12, 2003 06:55am

If you watched the game, what do you think about the refs that did the high school game on ESPN2 last night? I think they did a good job overall.
I wonder if someone told them to use college mechanics or if they did them on their own.

ChuckElias Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:18am

I didn't see the game, but my guess is that whoever assigned the officials to the game got college officials to do the game and the officials just used their normal (CCA) mechanics.

(I have very very slim hopes that I might be in that position next month. Shhhhhhh.)

Stan Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:20am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias

(I have very very slim hopes that I might be in that position next month. Shhhhhhh.)

Just between us, when and what channel?

BktBallRef Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:24am

Quote:

Originally posted by Stan
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias

(I have very very slim hopes that I might be in that position next month. Shhhhhhh.)

Just between us, when and what channel?

I think "Shhhhhhh" means wait and see. :)

ChuckElias Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:40am

The games in question are part of the Hall of Fame tournament in Springfield, MA. It has been rumored (but I haven't confirmed it) that at least one of these games may be carried on the worldwide leader.

It's nice to dream. . .

CLAY Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:01am

If this was a high school game, why would they use NCAA officials?

zebracz Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:09am

Quote:

Originally posted by tomegun
If you watched the game, what do you think about the refs that did the high school game on ESPN2 last night? I think they did a good job overall.
I wonder if someone told them to use college mechanics or if they did them on their own.

I wondered the same thing. They pro'bly are all trying to get into college. So of course they'd use CCA mechs. maybe.
:)

tomegun Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:12am

Quote:

Originally posted by CLAY
If this was a high school game, why would they use NCAA officials?
Some officials do both. I know someone who did high school, college and CBA at the same time. He doesn't do it anymore but he is one of the best officials I know.

They were wearing IAABO shirts.

Love2ref4Ever Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:47am

Excellent Job!!
 
Those three officials who worked that game are three of the best officials in my area. This was a high profile game and I thought they did an excellent job. By the way, I know one of them to be a college official. They propably wore the IAABO shirts because the assignments came down from our high school athletic league assignor.

mick Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:04am

FWIW
 
Two officials that I have worked with are scheduled to be on ESPN2 ... sometime.

The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.

Jim Weiler and Jim Trcha will be working that game tonight, but the telecast date is unknown.

mick

rockyroad Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:25am

Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
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The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.



mick [/B]
You actually have a school there called the Nimrods??? Way back when I was in school, that was NOT a name one wanted to be called...and I recognize both of those names - they both do college, correct?

Mark Padgett Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:30am

Re: Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
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The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.



mick
You actually have a school there called the Nimrods??? Way back when I was in school, that was NOT a name one wanted to be called...and I recognize both of those names - they both do college, correct? [/B]
From that school's website:

Webster's Dictionary

1.) a descendant of Ham represented in the Old Testament book of Genesis as a mighty hunter and a king of Shinar
2.) hunter

Origin of Nickname

Watersmeet School began using the nickname the "Nimrod" in the year of 1904.
By Biblical Accounts, Nimrod was "a mighty hunter before the Lord." According to the Old Testament, he established a great kingdom and founded a number of important Babylonian and Assyrian cities. Watersmeet, situated in the heart of the Upper Peninsula Ottawa National Forest, adopted the name because the forest is prime hunting land for waterfowl, deer, and bear.
by Bill L. Roose taken from the 1934 Wahinain

Something of Interest

In the year of 1986, ESPN,"Sports America Show," compiled the 10 top nicknames for high school sports teams. the "Nimrods" ranked third out of the 10 top nicknames.


1.) SYRUPMAKERS of Cairo,GA.
2.)BEETDIGGERS of Brush,Colo.
3.)*NIMRODS* of Watersmeet, MI.
4.)IMPS of Cary,N.C.
5.)ATOMSMASHERS of Jonhson Prep, Savannah,GA.
6.)ANGORAS of Clarkston,GA.
7.)FLIVVERS of Kingsford,MI.
8.)SQUIRRELS of Winslow,AZ.
9.)PEGLEGS of Stuyvesant in New York City
10.)DOTS of Poca,W. VA.

..................

BTW - my personal favorite is the Cobden (IL) Appleknockers.

ChuckElias Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:55am

You left out the Fighting Quakers of Salem, OH!

mick Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:55am

Re: Re: FWIW
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
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...and I recognize both of those names - they both do college, correct?
Weiler is on the GLIAC women's staff.
I dunno about Trcha.
mick

mick Fri Dec 12, 2003 11:59am

Re: Re: Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett


From that school's website:

Webster's Dictionary

1.) a descendant of Ham represented in the Old Testament book of Genesis as a mighty hunter and a king of Shinar
2.) hunter

Origin of Nickname

Watersmeet School began using the nickname the "Nimrod" in the year of 1904.
By Biblical Accounts, Nimrod was "a mighty hunter before the Lord." According to the Old Testament, he established a great kingdom and founded a number of important Babylonian and Assyrian cities. Watersmeet, situated in the heart of the Upper Peninsula Ottawa National Forest, adopted the name because the forest is prime hunting land for waterfowl, deer, and bear.
by Bill L. Roose taken from the 1934 Wahinain


Thanks, Mark.
That is interesting. And the description hasn't changed much, except for the addition of a casino.
mick

tomegun Fri Dec 12, 2003 01:20pm

The Dots from Poca, W. VA.

That's good!

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:03pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
You left out the Fighting Quakers of Salem, OH!
Now you are talking about my neck of the woods. Salem is about twenty miles south of Youngstown.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Dec 12, 2003 09:05pm

Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Two officials that I have worked with are scheduled to be on ESPN2 ... sometime.

The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.

Jim Weiler and Jim Trcha will be working that game tonight, but the telecast date is unknown.

mick

It should also be noted that the Nimrods play in the Porcupine Mountain Conference.

ChuckElias Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:26pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I didn't see the game, but my guess is that whoever assigned the officials to the game got college officials to do the game and the officials just used their normal (CCA) mechanics.

(I have very very slim hopes that I might be in that position next month. Shhhhhhh.)

Just found out that the deal with ESPN2 starts with next year's invitational. So I won't be on the tube, even though I will be doing one of the "regional" games. Oh well.

davidw Sat Jan 03, 2004 02:34pm

Re: Re: Re: FWIW
 
[/B][/QUOTE]

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BTW - my personal favorite is the Cobden (IL) Appleknockers. [/B][/QUOTE]

Not high school, but I've always been intrigued by the Scottsdale (AZ) Community College Pink Artichokes.

Mark Dexter Sun Jan 04, 2004 07:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I didn't see the game, but my guess is that whoever assigned the officials to the game got college officials to do the game and the officials just used their normal (CCA) mechanics.

(I have very very slim hopes that I might be in that position next month. Shhhhhhh.)

Just found out that the deal with ESPN2 starts with next year's invitational. So I won't be on the tube, even though I will be doing one of the "regional" games. Oh well.


All the more reason to do well this year and get a finals spot next . . . . :)

BktBallRef Sun Jan 04, 2004 08:32pm

Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Two officials that I have worked with are scheduled to be on ESPN2 ... sometime.

The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.

Jim Weiler and Jim Trcha will be working that game tonight, but the telecast date is unknown.

mick

Weiler? Is he still alive? Maybe his computer is just dead. :)


mick Sun Jan 04, 2004 08:42pm

Re: Re: FWIW
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Two officials that I have worked with are scheduled to be on ESPN2 ... sometime.

The game will be a profile of the Watersmeet Nimrods against the Bessemer Speedboys here in the U.P.

Jim Weiler and Jim Trcha will be working that game tonight, but the telecast date is unknown.

mick

Weiler? Is he still alive? Maybe his computer is just dead. :)


No. He just refs that way.
mick

williebfree Sun Jan 04, 2004 08:46pm

Interesting Combo of HS Names
 
I do not have personal experience with these schools, but I did ask the student who was wearing the "Letter Jacket". He claimed his school was called the Freeport (IL) Pretzels and they frequently play the Monroe (WI) Cheesemakers.

When they meet it is called the "Cheese and Crackers" Bowl. :D

Perhaps Rich F can confirm this, since he is in that locale....


ChuckElias Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:01am

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
I won't be on the tube, even though I will be doing one of the "regional" games. Oh well.
All the more reason to do well this year and get a finals spot next . . . . :) [/B][/QUOTE]
Mark, it's not a question of making a finals. The invitational is divided into two brackets: regional and national. The regional teams are our local HS teams who play teams from CT and MA. The national bracket contains schools from outside the area, such as Dematha (from MD) and Christ the King (from NYC).

The first year, I got three games; two regional and one national. This year I have a regional game only. I don't think that's a reflection on my performance last time. But this time we're using 2-whistle, instead of 3, and it's a little more organized, so the assignments are given out longer in advance (meaning, I won't get a desparate call an hour before the game to jump on :) ).

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:07am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
[/B]
The first year, I got three games; two regional and one national. This year I have a regional game only. I don't think that's a reflection on my performance last time. But this time we're using 2-whistle, instead of 3, and it's a little more organized, so the assignments are given out longer in advance (meaning, I won't get a desparate call an hour before the game to jump on ).

[/B][/QUOTE]Not to worry. You're on the short list for next year.

Dan_ref Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:14am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
The first year, I got three games; two regional and one national. This year I have a regional game only. I don't think that's a reflection on my performance last time. But this time we're using 2-whistle, instead of 3, and it's a little more organized, so the assignments are given out longer in advance (meaning, I won't get a desparate call an hour before the game to jump on ).

[/B]
Not to worry. You're on the short list for next year. [/B][/QUOTE]

sigh...now I got coffee all over my monitor...

Mark Dexter Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:30am

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
The first year, I got three games; two regional and one national. This year I have a regional game only. I don't think that's a reflection on my performance last time. But this time we're using 2-whistle, instead of 3, and it's a little more organized, so the assignments are given out longer in advance (meaning, I won't get a desparate call an hour before the game to jump on ).

[/B]
Not to worry. You're on the short list for next year. [/B][/QUOTE]


JR - I don't think they assign officials to the short list based on height. :p


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