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psychobat Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:03pm

Question: Is it an officials "job" to inform the player taking the ball out of bounds on a spot throw in that they are not allowed to run the baseline? I know you are supposed to indicate when they can run the baseline but are you required to indicate a spot?
I generally do after a time-out but don't in other situations. I know some will say they do as a courtesy but is it required?

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:25pm

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Originally posted by psychobat
Question: Is it an officials "job" to inform the player taking the ball out of bounds on a spot throw in that they are not allowed to run the baseline? I know you are supposed to indicate when they can run the baseline but are you required to indicate a spot?
I generally do after a time-out but don't in other situations. I know some will say they do as a courtesy but is it required?

On spot throw-ins I usually point to the spot and say something that includes the word "here!" (Like "Red ball, here!") If the thrower doesn't stand fairly close to the spot, I'll require him/her to move to the spot. I don't say anything about running the baseline unless it's after a timeout or violation or some unusual delay.

Danvrapp Tue Dec 09, 2003 12:37pm

I always verbally inform the player they have a spot, simply by handing the ball and saying "Spot." I always thought this was one of those silly things officials do, but for the first time in my four year career, I actually had a player try to run the line during a spot throw-in this past weekend.

Whistle.

Violation.

No complaints - the player heard me yell it. ;)

Forksref Tue Dec 09, 2003 01:14pm

I always point to the spot. If A has it unders A's basket I tell them 'spot'. After a timeout or delay I will tell them they can run the baseline if that is the case.

I've had a 'run the baseline' throw-in that was knocked OOB in half a second by the defense. A called a timeout and when they came back, they had forgotten that the ball had been knocked OOB. I told them spot and they didn't believe me. I exlained what had previously occurred and we got along fine after that. :)

BktBallRef Tue Dec 09, 2003 01:27pm

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Originally posted by psychobat
Question: Is it an officials "job" to inform the player taking the ball out of bounds on a spot throw in that they are not allowed to run the baseline? I know you are supposed to indicate when they can run the baseline but are you required to indicate a spot?
I generally do after a time-out but don't in other situations. I know some will say they do as a courtesy but is it required?

You must "designate" the spot. Whether you do it verbally, by pointing, or both, yes, it is your "job" to indicate the spot.

Also, it's good preventive officiating.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 09, 2003 01:55pm

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Originally posted by Forksref
I always point to the spot. If A has it unders A's basket I tell them 'spot'. After a timeout or delay I will tell them they can run the baseline if that is the case.


A throw-in by A under A's basket will always be a spot throw-in. ;)

Forksref Tue Dec 09, 2003 02:25pm

not all players know that

bigwhistle Tue Dec 09, 2003 05:11pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
Quote:

Originally posted by Forksref
I always point to the spot. If A has it unders A's basket I tell them 'spot'. After a timeout or delay I will tell them they can run the baseline if that is the case.


A throw-in by A under A's basket will always be a spot throw-in. ;)

Believe it or not, in a juco game Saturday night I had a team under it's own basket throw the ball from A1 to A2, also standing out of bounds on the other side of the paint, as a part of the inbounds play. The coach was so proud of drawing up the play until the whistle blew for a violation.

rainmaker Tue Dec 09, 2003 05:27pm

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Originally posted by bigwhistle
The coach was so proud of drawing up the play until the whistle blew for a violation.
Very funny picture in my head! Very young coach!!

Kelvin green Tue Dec 09, 2003 07:14pm

On a spot thrown in- I will tell them SPOT or hold their position. It depends on how emphatic I need to be, and how loud I need to be. If it is a tight game with a lot of pressure on the ball I will tel player it is a spot but you can go straight back. I will then tell defense to not cross the line and signal where the plane is.

To me that is preventive officiating. If I tell a player and everybody up to the cheap seats in the 50th row knows I have told a player not to break the plane and he comes across the T is easier.

If they have already had the warning I will tell them that too... Youve had the warning, dont go across,,, Dont hurt your team... Its quick simple and works.

BktBallRef Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:51pm

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Originally posted by Forksref
not all players know that
I think Bob is referring to the fact that you said, "If A has it unders A's basket I tell them 'spot'. After a timeout or delay I will tell them they can run the baseline if that is the case.." His point was that you will never tell A that under A's basket.

cowbyfan1 Wed Dec 10, 2003 04:21am

I actually had a coach thank me for giving her players a warning for trying to reach accross the OOB line on a thrown in. She said she could not get them to listen her that it was a real rule.


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