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Nick_O Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:30pm

The NF and NCAA make reference to excessive or uniform-saturated blood, respectively, but what do we do with a player whose uniform has a spot or a few spots of blood on it? I searched high and low through the books, but could not find anything specific.

I went with "the uniform was treated by a trainer, so it's OK for the player to continue to play with the uniform that has (now-treated) blood spots on it," but I was not 100% sure that this was correct.

Thoughts or rulings to confirm or refute my ruling? Thanks!

just another ref Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:37pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nick_O
The NF and NCAA make reference to excessive or uniform-saturated blood, respectively, but what do we do with a player whose uniform has a spot or a few spots of blood on it? I searched high and low through the books, but could not find anything specific.

I went with "the uniform was treated by a trainer, so it's OK for the player to continue to play with the uniform that has (now-treated) blood spots on it," but I was not 100% sure that this was correct.

Thoughts or rulings to confirm or refute my ruling? Thanks!

3-3-6 A player who ....... has an excessive amount of blood on his/her uniform ....shall be directed to leave the game.

Use your judgment to decide what is excessive.

Nick_O Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:40pm

The kid went out -- he was bleeding. The trainer treated him/stopped the bleeding and treated his uniform, and then the formerly bleeding player was allowed back in. The coach of the team without the bleeding player asked if his jersey was OK or if it should be changed, and that is where my question comes from. I guessed that the uniform was OK, having been treated, but could not find anything to confirm my guess.

DownTownTonyBrown Mon Dec 01, 2003 05:37pm

Communicability
 
The danger is obviously if the blood is transferrable to someone else.... transferability is what makes it excessive. A spot of blood is not readily transferrable unless you think players are going to start sucking on each other's jerseys. A player that is actively bleeding, or dripping, or that can be touched and blood transferred, is excessive. Same would be true of a uniform. Spots of blood that have been wiped off are still visible but are not realistically going to transfer to another player. Spots, of themselves, have no further source of blood and therefore do not need to be covered if they have been wiped off. Open wounds do have a further source of blood... they must be bandaged and covered.

These are just my opinions but are what I use as a rule of thumb.

Nick_O Mon Dec 01, 2003 05:39pm

DTTB, what you said makes sense, regarding transfer - ability. I think that is a pretty reasonable measure of what to do as an official.

rainmaker Mon Dec 01, 2003 07:50pm

Somewhere in the distant past, someone posted on this board about a chemical that could be sprayed onto blood that somehow made it less threatening. Was that Dexter? Dexter, we need you here.

Mark Dexter Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:01pm

Not sure what that chemical was - sorry.


However, I tend to use the guideline that, if I can see the blood, it's excessive. This, however, probably comes from my training in universal protections.

rainmaker Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:06pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Dexter
Not sure what that chemical was - sorry.


However, I tend to use the guideline that, if I can see the blood, it's excessive. This, however, probably comes from my training in universal protections.

Okay, it must have been someone else. Thanks for checking in. Sorry to bother you. Back to the salt mines, drudge!!

Kelvin green Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:33pm

Can make change with no penalty of changing number!

Dan_ref Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:34pm

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
Somewhere in the distant past, someone posted on this board about a chemical that could be sprayed onto blood that somehow made it less threatening. Was that Dexter? Dexter, we need you here.
NFHS procedure calls for the bloodied thing ("contaminated surfaces and equipment") to be cleaned with an "appropriate disinfectant" before the game can continue. Don't know what this magical stuff is but I would bet it contains bleach. I have seen it sprayed on a floor & a shirt.

oatmealqueen Mon Dec 01, 2003 08:50pm

Re: Communicability
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
A spot of blood is not readily transferrable unless you think players are going to start sucking on each other's jerseys.


Could happen at Transylvania High School :)

Nick_O Tue Dec 02, 2003 07:33am

follow-up ? for dan_ref
 
Where does it cite the procedure in the NF rules for treating blood? That makes total sense, but I could not find such a reference. Thanks!

Dan_ref Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:45am

Re: follow-up ? for dan_ref
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nick_O
Where does it cite the procedure in the NF rules for treating blood? That makes total sense, but I could not find such a reference. Thanks!

I believe somewhere after rule 10 there's a page which gives this procedure in detail.


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