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maroonx Sun Jan 11, 2026 09:01am
Rule 5 Scoring and Timing Regulations
 
.08 on the clock in 2nd. Team A has throw in in their backcourt. Team A player throws long pass and is caught by another Team A player who immediately throws in it for a 3. .08 is still on the clock. Clock did not properly start.

The officials got together and decided to cancel goal and do the original throw in all over again.

Rule 5-1 ART. 2 says whether the clock is running or stopped has no influence on the counting of the goal.

Did the officials make the correct ruling? I would of kept the points on the board and make an adjustment to the .08 seconds remaining for a throw in for the other team.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2026 09:45am
Definite Knowledge ...
 
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Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 1054750)
.08 on the clock in 2nd. Team A has throw in in their backcourt. Team A player throws long pass and is caught by another Team A player who immediately throws in it for a 3. .08 is still on the clock. Clock did not properly start.
Maybe on the driveway, or on the playground asphalt, but there are seldom do-overs, in interscholastic basketball.

I'm assuming that .08 means eight seconds.

I'm also asssuming that after the score the clock remained stopped for some reason (whistle, timeout, confusion, etc.).

Count the basket.

With definite knowledge (not a guess-timate) take time off the clock, give the ball to Team B, and let them run the endline.

With no definite knowledge, keep the clock at .08, give the ball to Team B, and let them run the endline.

Note: I always keep a mental countdown clock in my head during the last seconds of a period.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2026 01:34pm
Definite Knowledge ...
 
5-10 Timing Mistakes

ART. 1 The referee may correct an obvious mistake by the timer to start or stop the clock properly only when he/she has definite information relative to the time involved. The exact time observed by the official may be placed on the clock.

ART. 2 If the referee determines that the clock malfunctioned or was not started/stopped properly, or if the clock did not run, an official’s count or other official information may be used to make a correction.

Raymond Sun Jan 11, 2026 01:42pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1054751)
Maybe on the driveway, or on the playground asphalt, but there are seldom do-overs, in interscholastic basketball.

I'm assuming that .08 means eight seconds.

I'm also asssuming that after the score the clock remained stopped for some reason (whistle, timeout, confusion, etc.).

Count the basket.

With definite knowledge (not a guess-timate) take time off the clock, give the ball to Team B, and let them run the endline.

With no definite knowledge, keep the clock at .08, give the ball to Team B, and let them run the endline.

Note: I always keep a mental countdown clock in my head during the last seconds of a period.
Quite sure he meant 0.8 seconds to start the play, catch and shoot.

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BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2026 02:27pm
The Final Countdown (Europe, 1986) ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1054754)
Quite sure he meant 0.8 seconds to start the play, catch and shoot.
For me, I would have a mental countdown clock in my head. If I got down to a pause immediatley before one second and the ball had not been released, it would not have counted. Yeah, I would be off by about a tenth of a second, but my brain isn't accurate to tenths of a second.

What I would do in maroonx's situation?

Not sure, hopefully my partner, myself, and the table could come up with some type of resolution, maybe with a truely educated estimate (which really isn't definite information)?

One thing that I do know is that there would not be a do-over.

bucky Sun Jan 11, 2026 02:39pm
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Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 1054750)
immediately
If OP intended for time to be 8-tenths of a second, then score it if calling official felt it got off in time. If not, then do not score it. No do-overs as others have indicated.

BillyMac Sun Jan 11, 2026 06:32pm
Immediately ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 1054750)
.08 on the clock in 2nd. Team A has throw in in their backcourt. Team A player throws long pass and is caught by another Team A player who immediately throws in it for a 3.
Immediately is the key word in this situation.

Immediately
1. at once; instantly; straight away; at once; right away; right now
2. without any intervening time or space

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.L...=Api&P=0&h=180

Nevadaref Mon Jan 12, 2026 02:58am
Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 1054750)
.08 on the clock in 2nd. Team A has throw in in their backcourt. Team A player throws long pass and is caught by another Team A player who immediately throws in it for a 3. .08 is still on the clock. Clock did not properly start.

The officials got together and decided to cancel goal and do the original throw in all over again.

Rule 5-1 ART. 2 says whether the clock is running or stopped has no influence on the counting of the goal.

Did the officials make the correct ruling? I would of kept the points on the board and make an adjustment to the .08 seconds remaining for a throw in for the other team.
https://forum.officiating.com/basket...-do-overs.html

jmwking Mon Jan 12, 2026 07:05am
Team USA still has silver medals in a Swiss vault.

BillyMac Mon Jan 12, 2026 11:51am
Ussr 51 usa 50 ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmwking (Post 1054772)
Team USA still has silver medals in a Swiss vault.
Nice.

Look up "do-overs" in the dictionary and you'll see this game mentioned.

maroonx Mon Jan 12, 2026 12:09pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1054775)
Nice.

Look up "do-overs" in the dictionary and you'll see this game mentioned.
i remember that play. lol

BillyMac Mon Jan 12, 2026 01:02pm
Do-Overs ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonx (Post 1054777)
I remember that play.
It was actually three plays.

I beleive that two were do-overs.

Raymond Mon Jan 12, 2026 07:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1054779)
It was actually three plays.



I beleive that two were do-overs.
I was 8 years old. One of my older basketball memories.

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jmwking Wed Jan 14, 2026 04:34pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1054779)
It was actually three plays.

I beleive that two were do-overs.
And I imagine the Soviets were going to get as many as it took!


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