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SNIPERBBB Fri Nov 14, 2025 09:29pm

Free throw shenanigans
 
Issue during boys scrimmage tonight

A1 and B1 in the first and second spaces. B coach wants B1 to switch to the other side do he can be matched with A. A1follows B1 over as A2 and B2 also switch. So A1 reverses back..and so does B1.

Do we eventually have a stalemate in the middle of the lan as 4 players now have no idea where to go. B coach is insisting that they have a right to get the matchup they want.

A eventually yeilds.

If the stalemate continues, and it was already too long to me already, what would the remedy be? I don't believe there's a rule that gives B the right to the matchup they want. Player technicals would stop this happening again but probably not they helpful.

Nevadaref Fri Nov 14, 2025 10:25pm

We discussed this in the past. Most felt that the Referee should make a ruling as this isn’t specifically covered in the rules.
Some others advocated that the defense needs to fill their spots first because they are the only ones required to be occupied and then the offense can fill in as they choose.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 14, 2025 10:50pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1054428)
We discussed this in the past. Most felt that the Referee should make a ruling as this isn’t specifically covered in the rules.
Some others advocated that the defense needs to fill their spots first because they are the only ones required to be occupied and then the offense can fill in as they choose.

I agree with both of those suggestions.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1054428)
We discussed this in the past. Most felt that the Referee should make a ruling as this isn’t specifically covered in the rules.
Some others advocated that the defense needs to fill their spots first because they are the only ones required to be occupied and then the offense can fill in as they choose.


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MTD, Sr.

SNIPERBBB Sat Nov 15, 2025 07:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1054429)
I agree with both of those suggestions.

What kind of ruling would be made on the former suggestion?

bob jenkins Sat Nov 15, 2025 08:40am

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1054431)
What kind of ruling would be made on the former suggestion?

The two suggestions were:
1) R should decide (it's not covered).
2) Have the defense choose first, then the offense, then the defense again.

Raymond Sat Nov 15, 2025 09:25am

I always gave the defense the ability to match up. There are only two advantages during a free throw, the chance to score and the choice of who to box out.

There's no advantage to picking one side of the lane or the other, so telling defense they get to pick a side first is an empty strategic choice.

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BillyMac Sat Nov 15, 2025 11:53am

Sinister (Latin, Left, Evil, Menacing, Threatening) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1054433)
There's no advantage to picking one side of the lane or the other ...

On lower levels, offensive rebounders could be dominant right handed, or dominant left handed, for put backs.

I know because, unfortunately, I only became ambidexterous later in my scholastic career.

BillyMac Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:07pm

Strong, Confident Voice ...
 
It's happened to me only a few times in my forty-five year career.

I start one side of the lane and point to the lowest marked lane space and stongly ask, "Who (defense) wants this spot?".

Move onto the next marked lane space and stongly ask, "Who (offense) wants this spot?".

Then I switch to the other side of the lane and do the same.

Then I switch to the more distant marked lane spaces and do the same with defensive players.

Then I very stongly state, "Nobody move!" and we play on from there.

I'm not sure what I would do it they didn't follow my instructions because they (luckily) never did, but I'm sure that I could come up with some penalty.

The key is to use a strong, confident voice (like it's the real rule).

bob jenkins Sat Nov 15, 2025 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1054435)

Then I switch to the more distant marked lane spaces and do the same in the same order (defense then offense).

.

????

BillyMac Sat Nov 15, 2025 01:16pm

I Did Not Know That This Would Involve Math ...
 
I should have used my slide rule.

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1054436)
????

Thanks bob jenkins.

I carelessly forgot about the limit of offensive players (two) in marked lane spaces.

I momentarily went back to 2007-08 when there were two additional marked lane spaces.

Only eighteen years ago, seems longer.

8-1-4: During a free throw, lane spaces may be occupied as follows:
a. Marked lane spaces may be occupied by a maximum of two offensive players; four defensive players may occupy lane spaces.
b. The first marked lane spaces on each side of the lane, above and adjacent to the first lane-space marks, must be occupied by opponents of the free thrower. No teammate of the free thrower must occupy either of these marked lane spaces.
c. The second marked lane spaces on each side may be occupied by teammates of the free thrower.
d. The third marked lane spaces on each side, nearest the free thrower, may be occupied by the opponents of the free thrower.
e. Players must be permitted to move along and across the lane to occupy a vacant marked lane space within the limitations listed in this rule.
f. Not more than one player may occupy any part of a marked lane space.


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