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Zoochy Sun Apr 20, 2025 08:21pm

Free Throws
 
I was watching a tournament game in my area. A player was shooting a Technical foul and the officials were adamant about getting the players behind the division line. A player was refusing and it created a big commotion.

NFHS
page(s) 57-58
Rule 8-1 Free Throw Administration
Article 4 During a free throw, lane spaces may be occupied as follows: (There are 6 provisions)
Article 5: ... Any Player, other than the Free Thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space shall be behind the Free-throw line extended and behind the 3-point line.

page 59
Rule 9-1 Free Throw Provisions
Article 3 After the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower
provision f. Any Player, other than the Free Thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space, may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the free-throw line extended and the 3-point line which is farther from the basket until the ball touches the ring or until the free-throw ends

page 58
Rule 8-3 Attempting Technical Foul - Free Throws
The free throws awarded because of a technical foul may be attempted by any player of the offended team, including an eligible substitute or a designated starter. The coach or the captain may designate the free thrower(s).

So per Rules 8 & 9, no wording says players have to be behind the division line for a technical nor intentional free throw. It's a myth.
Also per Rule 8 states that there can be more than 1 free thrower to attempt the technical free throws

Are the rules different for NCAA-M, NCAA-W, FIBA, NBA and WNBA?

Raymond Mon Apr 21, 2025 05:05am

Which game and what time stamp?

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bob jenkins Mon Apr 21, 2025 07:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 1053704)

So per Rules 8 & 9, no wording says players have to be behind the division line for a technical nor intentional free throw. It's a myth.
Also per Rule 8 states that there can be more than 1 free thrower to attempt the technical free throws

Are the rules different for NCAA-M, NCAA-W, FIBA, NBA and WNBA?

1) In FED, different players can attempt each FT for a T. see 8.2A In NCAAW, only one player can attempt (absent injury, DQ, etc)

2) In FED and NCAAW, the players only need be behind the FT line at three-point arc (not the division line)

Zoochy Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1053706)
Which game and what time stamp?

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It was a local game. I think it was 15 year old kids.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Mon Apr 21, 2025 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 1053704)
I was watching a tournament game in my area. A player was shooting a Technical foul and the officials were adamant about getting the players behind the division line. A player was refusing and it created a big commotion.

NFHS
page(s) 57-58
Rule 8-1 Free Throw Administration
Article 4 During a free throw, lane spaces may be occupied as follows: (There are 6 provisions)
Article 5: ... Any Player, other than the Free Thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space shall be behind the Free-throw line extended and behind the 3-point line.

page 59
Rule 9-1 Free Throw Provisions
Article 3 After the ball is placed at the disposal of the free thrower
provision f. Any Player, other than the Free Thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space, may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the free-throw line extended and the 3-point line which is farther from the basket until the ball touches the ring or until the free-throw ends

page 58
Rule 8-3 Attempting Technical Foul - Free Throws
The free throws awarded because of a technical foul may be attempted by any player of the offended team, including an eligible substitute or a designated starter. The coach or the captain may designate the free thrower(s).

So per Rules 8 & 9, no wording says players have to be behind the division line for a technical nor intentional free throw. It's a myth.
Also per Rule 8 states that there can be more than 1 free thrower to attempt the technical free throws

Are the rules different for NCAA-M, NCAA-W, FIBA, NBA and WNBA?


Zoochy:

The Rule is the same, word for word, in all Rules Codes (NFHS, NCAA Men's/Women's, NBA/WNBA, and FIBA): "Any Player, other than the Free Thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space shall be behind the Free-throw line extended and behind the 3-point line."

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Tue Apr 22, 2025 09:57am

The Loch Ness Monster Rule ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoochy (Post 1053704)
... a player was shooting a Technical foul and the officials were adamant about getting the players behind the division line.

... also intentional fouls.

Yes, a classic myth, not sure of its origin, although I do remember being told to do so (right or wrong) back in high school in the late 1960's.

And it's not just "academic" to have officials perpetuate this myth, it actually puts one team at a disadvantage by not allowing one team's players to converse privately with their coach, while the other team's players are allowed to do so.

It's on my list of Misunderstood Basketball Rules:

On free throws, there is a maximum of two offensive players, and four defensive players, in the six marked lane spaces. The defense must be in the first marked lane spaces, above the neutral zone marks, on all free throws. The offense must not occupy the first marked lane spaces, above the neutral zone marks. For free throws when there are no rebounders in the marked lane spaces (technical fouls, intentional fouls), the nine nonshooters shall remain behind the free throw line extended, and behind the three point arc.

Also in my magazine article, Things Officials Should Probably Not Be Saying In A Game:

Calvin Coolidge once said, "The things I did not say never hurt me." Of course, he was not talking about basketball, but many officials would be smart to heed his sage advice as they communicate with coaches, and players.

Good communication skills are important tools to have on any official’s tool belt. Good communication with a partner, with a player, or with a coach, can go a long way to maintaining control of the game, having good game management, and having a smooth game. Sometimes this communication takes place in oral form, talking to players, or coaches, in some cases to explain a ruling, or in other cases to prevent a violation, or a foul. However, probably for reasons of tradition, there have been things that officials often, or sometimes, say during a game that do not have any basis in the rules, and should probably not be said in a game. This article will cover some of those “best left unsaid” statements.

"Everybody get behind the division line”, often said by an official before free throws for a technical foul, or an intentional foul, is also not rule based. According to the rule, the nine non-shooters shall remain behind the free throw line extended, and behind the three point arc, and do not have to stay behind the division line. In some cases, this may allow players to legally converse with their coaches.

Finally, a thought by social commentator Will Rogers, “Never miss a good chance to shut up.”


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