Four Magic Spots ...

[BillyMac]

How about a backcourt violation when offender simply steps on but not over the division line?

Closest spot is at the division line, which is technically in the backcourt of the offended team, thus inbound (by new rule) at closest spot.

But wait, there's an exception (by 2023-24 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 9) for this situation.

ALL backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

Right?

For other types of backcourt violations when offender violates in some other part of the backcourt (not just the division line), it would by rule will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

How about a backcourt violation when offender simply steps on but not over the division line?But wait, there's an exception (by interpretation) for this situation.

2023-24 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations
SITUATION 9: A1, while dribbling the ball in team A’s frontcourt, steps on but not over the division line. RULING: Backcourt violation. COMMENT: The ball was in team control in the frontcourt and went to the backcourt when A1 contacted the division line. Team B is awarded a possession throw-in in its frontcourt at one of the four designated spots nearest the violation.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

How about a backcourt violation when offender simply steps on but not over the division line?

Closest spot is at the division line, which is technically in the backcourt of the offended team, thus inbound (by new rule) at closest spot.

But wait, there's an exception (by 2023-24 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 9) for this situation.

ALL backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

Right?

For other types of backcourt violations when offender violates in some other part of the backcourt (not just the division line), it would by rule will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

Do a history search. I've talked about having a clear interpretations about T-I spots and various BC violations.

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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

ALL backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

Right?

.

I don't think so. You mentioned the one where A steps on the line.

But, B can still get possession of the ball in it's BC if A1 throws a pass that hits the division line and is then caught in the FC by A2.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

ALL backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think so ... But, B can still get possession of the ball in it's BC if A1 throws a pass that hits the division line and is then caught in the FC by A2.

Rare, but I agree and so would the late Princess of Monaco.

ALMOST all backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

But, B can still get possession of the ball in it's BC if A1 throws a pass that hits the division line and is then caught in the FC by A2.

OK bob jenkins, so then how do I answer this?

2024-25 IAABO Refresher Exam
22) The throw-in spot for a backcourt violation is the nearest of the four designated frontcourt throw-in spots to where the violation occurred. Yes or no?

Do I answer it as it happens 99.9% of the time, or how it happens in this very rare situation?

[bob jenkins]

I would be sure I knew the rule and not worry about what the test answer was.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

... B can still get possession of the ball in it's BC if A1 throws a pass that hits the division line and is then caught in the FC by A2.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

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IAABO Interpretation:

The team in white jerseys gained frontcourt status when White #3 saved the ball near the sideline. She threw it toward the division line, which landed in the backcourt. The ball now had backcourt status, when it was recovered by White #2 standing in the frontcourt.

This was correctly ruled a backcourt violation.

In most cases, a backcourt violation is caused by a player who has backcourt status. When this occurs, the ensuing throw-in should be awarded to the opponents in their frontcourt at the nearest of the four frontcourt designated throw-in spots.

In this case, the violation was caused by a player who had frontcourt status. Since the player had frontcourt status, the ensuing throw-in is a backcourt throw-in at the spot nearest to where the violation occurred.

In this play, the officials correctly awarded the ball in the backcourt along the sideline.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

2024-25 IAABO Refresher Exam
22) The throw-in spot for a backcourt violation is the nearest of the four designated frontcourt throw-in spots to where the violation occurred. Yes or no?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I would be sure I knew the rule and not worry about what the test answer was.

Actually, due to our Forum discussion and my "Tunnel Vision", I made this question harder than I should have.

Answer is "No" because some backcourt violations are inbounded in the backcourt.

While these plays might be considered rare, we all see a few of them during the season.

I'm deleting this (below) from my memory "shortcuts".

Originally Posted by BillyMac

ALMOST all backcourt violations will be inbounded at one of the four "magic spots" in the frontcourt of the offended team.

And I'm sticking with this.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"If the ball is going to be inbounded in the frontcourt, it will ALWAYS be inbounded at one of the closest four closest "magic spots" EXCEPT if the stoppage in play was due to the ball going out of bounds, in which case it will be inbounded at the spot closest to where the ball went out of bounds".

... realizing that a timeout during a throwin isn't considered a "stoppage in play" and that a backcourt violation by a player simply stepping on the division line will be inbounded in the new frontcourt, both by interpretation.

There are no "shortcuts".

Just have to follow the yellow brick road to the end.

I have to stop thinking about zebras when I hear hoof beats on a Texas cattle ranch.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I have to stop thinking about zebras when I hear hoof beats on a Texas cattle ranch.

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Page 75 of the new manual has a good gaf on throw in spots