Faking Being Fouled Rule ...

[Mike Goodwin]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

...Penalties not administered in the order in which they occurred (is this a NFHS first)...

We spent thirty minutes on this rule.

You've seen this in writing in NFHS - penalties not administered in the order they occurred (Fundamental 12) - dissimilar to what follows?

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This was the situation and administration in Play 5 from an IAABO presentation on Technical Fouls today:

Team B is warned for Faking Being Fouled in the first quarter. Later in the game, A-1 releases the ball during a try for goal and defender B-2 fakes being fouled.

The ruling official withholds a whistle and displays the signal for faking being fouled. A-1's try is unsuccessful. A-3 secures the rebound and is fouled by B-4 while in the act of shooting.

Ruling: Officials award A-3 two free throws with no players lined up for the foul by B-4 while A-3 was in the act of shooting. Team A is then awarded two free throws for the second infraction of the faking-being-fouled rule and Team A is awarded the ball at the division line for the ensuing throw-in. Is this correct? YES!

Officials should display the faking-being-fouled signal and withhold their whistle when a defender fakes being fouled. The offensive team is allowed to complete their attempt to score and then play should be stopped. In this case, play was stopped when A-3 was fouled in the act of shooting. In situations similar to this, first penalize the foul that caused play to be stopped (foul in the act of shooting) [emphasis added].

Because the ball will remain dead, no players line up for the foul-in-the-act-of-shooting free throws and no players line up for free throws resulting from the technical foul due to Team B's second infraction of the faking-being-fouled rule. Continue play by awarding the ball to Team A for a division-line throw-in.

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Even though B-2's faking being fouled takes place before the foul by B-4, once play is stopped, the personal foul gets reported to the scorer first and then the faking being fouled gets reported. Once confirmed by the scorer as a subsequent offense, Team B is assessed a Team Technical Foul, which has then 'occurred' after the personal foul was assessed.

[Valley Man]

I mentioned the potential advantage when it first came out

Team A has the AP arrow. Down 3 and A2 attempts a game tying 3 and fakes being fouled. Attempt is good .. warning. Attempt is missed Team A gets the ball back????

[FlasherZ]

I think I said the same (forget which forum)... so I think it's pretty clear coaches will be trying to use it if many of us see it.

[johnny d]

Delay the signal for the flop until after team control is established either by rebound or made basket. Problem solved. No advantage gained.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Delay the signal for the flop until after team control is established either by rebound or made basket. Problem solved. No advantage gained.

https://www.nfhs.org/media/7213020/f...-practices.pdf

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Delay the signal for the flop until after team control is established either by rebound or made basket. Problem solved. No advantage gained.

Give the signal immediately, but delay the whistle. According to some new NFHS (or at least IHSA) presentation:

WHEN THE OFFENSIVE TEAM A HAS RELEASED THE BALL
1st Infraction (Successful Try): the basket will count, a warning issued to Team A and the ball put back in play at the Point of Interruption
All additional infractions, the basket will count, and a Team A Technical, 2 free throws and possession for team B

1st Infraction (Unsuccessful Try): Play continues until Team A scores via tip-in, team control is established by either team, or the ball becomes dead (out-of-bounds or basket interference/ goaltending on the shot). A warning would then be issued to Team A and the ball would be put back into play (POI)
All additional infractions result in a Team A Technical foul, 2 free throws and possession for Team B

[BillyMac]

From IAABO:

[JRutledge]

Illinois just came out with a procedure that they have seemed to have finalized and we are to wait until control is to have taken place before we stop play.

Basically, if the offense does the flop, we can stop it immediately barring a shot in the air. But once the rebound has taken place or the ball goes out of bounds, we stop play then and make the warning announcement.












Peace