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[JRutledge]

I was working at a high school camp that had a JUCO assignor that ran the camp. I was to present the New Rules for 2024-2025. I was talking about the new flopping rules with the definition. I gave this presentation multiple times on Friday and this was Saturday. I gave the first presentation of the day and one of the clinicians who happened to be in the room, looked up the signal chart for the NF. Lo and behold, there is a signal for the new flopping rule. When did this happen? I was shocked. I was telling the groups there was no signal yet, but one might be added. Did anyone announce this or is this just something just put in the rulebook on a secret meeting? LOL!!!!

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Thanks JRutledge.

I wonder if IAABO will add it to their signal chart?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks JRutledge.

I wonder if IAABO will add it to their signal chart?

And if they don't, what does that mean? I am asking for a reason BTW.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

And if they don't, what does that mean?

Double secret probation if one dares to use such an unauthorized signal in a game.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Double secret probation if one dares to use such an unauthorized signal in a game.

I am under the impression that IAABO does what the NF does when it comes to mechanics and signals.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am under the impression that IAABO does what the NF does when it comes to mechanics and signals.

Similar, but not exactly the same.

IAABO came up with its own mechanics manual and signals back in 2004-05.

Two years ago IAABO came up with its own Rules "Guide" (not Rules "Book") and "Play" Book (not "Case" Book).

However, the IAABO "Handbook" does contain the caveat, "Officials are encouraged to use this book in conjunction with the current editions of the NFHS Rules Book and Case Book".

[Stat-Man]

I was curious what the signal would look like, and it appears they copied the NCAA-M two-handed signal instead of FIBA's one-handed one.


Do we know what the protocol will be to report the initial flop warning? Do we stop play right away, or do we wait to report it at the next dead ball?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

... some people do not even understand how you even adjudicate this current rule yet for some real situations. People are now debating when you stop the game.

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Do we know what the protocol will be to report the initial flop warning? Do we stop play right away, or do we wait to report it at the next dead ball?

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

In women's college games, play is stopped "at the next stoppage of the game clock" to report the warning (4-14.2). The technical foul for a second or subsequent offense is called as usual for any other technical foul. NFHS can follow the women's college protocol, or they might choose to follow the old men's protocol of stopping the game immediately after the play the flop happened on ends. We will have to wait until the new rulebook is officially published to find out.

We''ll have to wait and see.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I was curious what the signal would look like, and it appears they copied the NCAA-M two-handed signal instead of FIBA's one-handed one.


Do we know what the protocol will be to report the initial flop warning? Do we stop play right away, or do we wait to report it at the next dead ball?

No, we do not, at least from the NF point of view. I live in a state that has a procedure that I think is totally stupid (and I will tell them how stupid) to wait for a dead ball. That is not the NCAA procedure, but some never officiate and try to come up with things that make no sense.

Peace

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