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bob jenkins Tue Feb 13, 2024 01:38pm

Time Out On Game Clock
 
Can the time out countdown be shown on the game clock?

I know NCAAW is "no." Only the time remaining in the game can be on the game clock.

What about FED and NCAAW?

ilyazhito Tue Feb 13, 2024 02:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1052077)
Can the time out countdown be shown on the game clock?

I know NCAAW is "no." Only the time remaining in the game can be on the game clock.

What about FED and NCAAW?

The NCAAM rulebook mentions a "digital stopwatch" that is used to time timeouts, but does not specify whether the game clock can also serve as that digital stopwatch.

BillyMac Tue Feb 13, 2024 02:52pm

If It Isn't Illegal ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1052077)
Can the time out countdown be shown on the game clock? I know NCAAW is "no." Only the time remaining in the game can be on the game clock. What about FED and NCAAW?

I don't believe that the NFHS has broached the subject, thus, if it isn't illegal, it's legal.

FlasherZ Tue Feb 13, 2024 09:31pm

Was used tonight for our (HS) games. Nevco scoreboard running time-out timer on the clock. Most coaches don't seem to like it because they want to see the time left.

ilyazhito Wed Feb 14, 2024 02:26am

When I've seen timeout timers running on the game clock, the game time reappears once the timeout ends. It might say 3:42 (game time), then it shows 30 seconds, and then the horn sounds at 15 seconds. Once the 2nd horn sounds, the game clock reverts to 3:42.

On other scoreboards, the timeout time is not visible, but the horns will sound automatically at 15 seconds and 0 seconds. This is because the console is used to time the timeout, but the scoreboard is set to not display timeout time.

BillyMac Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:55am

Officials Don't Seem To Like It ...
 
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Originally Posted by FlasherZ (Post 1052082)
Most coaches don't seem to like it because they want to see the time left.

Me too.

FlasherZ Thu Feb 15, 2024 09:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilyazhito (Post 1052084)
When I've seen timeout timers running on the game clock, the game time reappears once the timeout ends. It might say 3:42 (game time), then it shows 30 seconds, and then the horn sounds at 15 seconds. Once the 2nd horn sounds, the game clock reverts to 3:42.

On other scoreboards, the timeout time is not visible, but the horns will sound automatically at 15 seconds and 0 seconds. This is because the console is used to time the timeout, but the scoreboard is set to not display timeout time.

It's an option on Nevco controllers to display the time-out timer locally, or on the game clock. Most of our HS's just display it locally to the operator, this one the other night was a rare exception.

ilyazhito Sat Feb 17, 2024 07:06am

Daktronics has the same options, but I have usually seen timeouts displayed on the game clock for high school games. For college games, I have had the horn sound automatically at 15 and 0 seconds, but the game time is showing all the time.

bob jenkins Thu Apr 11, 2024 02:34pm

RefMag (and I know they are not always correct) has this as one of the "Test Yourself" (question 5, page 28) in the April issue.

According to them, only the game time is allowed to be displayed in all codes. NFHS 2-12-3; NCAAM 2-10.1, 2-20.8 (NCAAW we already know the correct answer).

I am away from all my books this week, so I can't check the references.

BillyMac Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:53am

Hickory Dickory Dock ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 1052412)
RefMag ... only the game time is allowed to be displayed in all codes. NFHS 2-12-3;

NFHS 2-12-3: The timer must: Be provided with a clock to be used for timing quarters, extra periods and intermissions, and a stopwatch for timing time-outs. The clock must be operated by the official timer. The clock and a stopwatch must be placed so that they may be seen by the timer.

So the timer can put the two one minute intermissions, and the one ten minute intermission, on the "clock", but must time the timeouts with the "stopwatch"?

Since it's a twentieth century rule and interpretation, hopefully the timer will remember to "wind" the stopwatch.

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