Kicked balls
 

The rule says it must be intentional. I think we would agree that a pass that bounces off a stationary player's leg is not a violation. But what about if the player is moving? Even though the player did not intentionally kick the ball, it seems that most officials call this a violation.

I have not been calling this, but I seem to be alone on this....thoughts?

You are not alone.

We've actually had some pretty exhaustive threads on this topic in years past. I think the consensus was that we need to determine if the action was "leg to ball" or "ball to leg". If the player is running with his/her back to the ball, and the ball hits the player's leg without the player even knowing where the ball is, that can't be a kicking violation.

I tried a search first, but only "kicked"...which of course resulted in posts about kicked calls, lol...just tried "kicked ball"...duh...much better!

Offensive Kicked Ball ...
 

Once, and only once, in over forty years, did I call an offensive kicked ball.

Two on none fast break. Ball handler loses control of the ball and seemingly intentionally kicks it ahead to open teammate for a easy layup.

Later found that the kicker was the star of the high school soccer team.

Anybody remember when it was only considered kicking if it struck the leg from the knee down?

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP._...=Api&P=0&h=180

It is a judgement call. I look at the player to see what he is doing. Did he move, lose control of the ball, and have it hit his foot, or did he use a leg to control or direct the ball somewhere? If it looks like the player hit the ball with the leg to move it in a certain direction, I call a violation. If it looks like an "oh, $#!*" moment, play on.

I called one on the team in control earlier this season. A1 and B1 are scrambling for a loose ball after A1 had it knocked away. A1 reaches out with her leg to corral the ball. I called the violation.

It is a judgment call for one. I have not called many players moving and the ball is thrown off a leg. But sometimes it is simply about angle and perspective. Not a common call, but it happens.

Peace

Magic Bus (The Who, 1968) ...
 

I called a defensive kick earlier this week, but what surprised me the most was that I remembered to use one of the four "magic spots".

Because we pregamed it, during the next timeout I asked my partner to congratulate me.

I've been having a hard time adjusting to this new four "magic spot" rule (as have literally all of my partners), but I'm getting better at it every game.

This thread reminds me of a play I performed in an alumni game. As a defender, I stealthily modified my gait to ensure that a passed ball hit my foot. Officials did not call a kicking violation because it appeared that I was simply running but in my head, I knew what I did